[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #382 2017-11-07-2017-11-13

Mikel Maron mikel.maron at gmail.com
Fri Nov 17 15:53:30 UTC 2017


> Anyway, it's sad to see that WeeklyOSM has abandoned all attempt at impartiality
Impartiality is an ongoing issue for any journalistic enterprise. WeeklyOSM has at times done better, and done worse. I think WeeklyOSM is a really valuable service, and I hope the editors there are open to our help to become a better service for the whole OSM community.
Let's look at this example, and see if we can come up with something better. 
Compare the original version...
> Yuri Astrakhan re-started the discussion on the Talk mailing list about the tool to do mechanical edits (it is now called Sophox). Yuri is perceived by many as unreasonable as before and tries to ignore all the unwritten rules in OSM.

and this version
> Yuri Astrakhan re-started the discussion on the Talk mailing list about the tool to do mechanical edits (it is now called Sophox). Yuri is as unreasonable as before and tries to ignore all the unwritten rules in OSM.
This is worse, but I posit not much worse. While the published version does semantically avoid WeeklyOSM making this judgement, the meaning comes through much the same.
Now try this version...
> Yuri Astrakhan re-started the discussion on the Talk mailing list about the tool to do mechanical edits (it is now called Sophox). The discussion continues to be quite contentious.

This is better. It gets the same substantial information across, but does not call out judgement on an individual, and allows the reader to enter the discussion with an open mind.
-Mikel

* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron 

    On Friday, November 17, 2017, 6:52:25 AM EST, Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Hi:

I've read the majority of the posts of the "New OSM Quick-Fix service" 
thread in OSM-talk, and I don't see any partiality in the post of the 
WeeklyOSM. In fact, I think they have been very polite and diplomatic.

Cheers,

Rafael.

On 17/11/17 11:34, Steve Doerr wrote:
> On 17/11/2017 08:20, weeklyteam wrote:
>> Yuri Astrakhanre-started 
>> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2017-November/079504.html>the discussion on the Talk mailing list about the tool to do mechanical edits (it is now called/Sophox/). Yuri is perceived by many as unreasonable as before and tries to ignore all the unwritten rules in OSM.
> 
> 
> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one 
> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress 
> depends on the unreasonable man."
> -George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman (1903)
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> 
> Anyway, it's sad to see that WeeklyOSM has abandoned all attempt at 
> impartiality.
> 
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