[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #382 2017-11-07-2017-11-13

[Andy Townsend]

On 17/11/2017 22:52, Clifford Snow wrote:
>
> Frederik,
> I think we are all thankful for the newsletter. And believe they are 
> free to publish to their own standards. However, because they use OSM 
> resources by publishing on our mailing lists they need respect our 
> values. I don't think asking a publication to be respectful to 
> individuals is asking too much.

Clifford,
Being "respectful" is a two-way street.  This is a situation that's been 
going on for almost exactly a year now.  During that time this 
individual has shown contempt for the OSM community, including on 
occasion telling outright untruths.  Conversations with him were very 
repectful at first (conducted in changeset discussions rather than on 
mailing lists), but it gradually became clear that any statements such 
as "I have already stopped changing any objects except" were simply 
worthless.  At some point you have to call a lie a lie, and I can't 
think of a way of doing that without "being disrespectful".

Also, I have to object to the use of "they" and "our" in your comment.  
The OSM Weekly is produced by and for people from the OSM community, 
exactly the same community that the mailing lists are run by and for.  
The use of that sort of divisive language ("they") reminds me of a visit 
to South Africa back in the 90s, and not in a good way.

Best Regards,

Andy

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