[OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi e.marascalchi at gmail.com
Mon Sep 25 05:56:49 UTC 2017

my 2 cents:
having a 2 layers map, one with local languages rendered, the second with
english ones when present as first choice, then local when not

Il 25 set 2017 7:14 AM, "Yves" <yvecai at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> If the OSMF tile servers were to be used to provide webmaps for a vast
> audience, I would understand double labeling in English.
> That not the primary purpose, though.
> Yves
> Le 24 septembre 2017 23:01:00 GMT+02:00, Matthijs Melissen <
> info at matthijsmelissen.nl> a écrit :
>> Hi all,
>> I would like to ask for your opinion on the choice of language used in
>> the Default map on openstreetmap.org.
>> This map (based on the openstreetmap-carto style) currently displays
>> all labels in their native language (as defined in the 'name' tag).
>> For example, we have a label 北京市 for Beijing, a label موريتانيا for
>> Mauritania, and a label Magyarország for Hungary.
>> The openstreetmap-carto team quite frequently receives requests to
>> (additionally) display labels in English (or in any case the
>> Latin-alphabet). The people making these requests state that the map
>> is currently not very usable for an international audience, as many
>> people are not able to read labels in for example Arabic or Mandarin.
>> Some areas where this problem is particularly visible:
>> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/803#issuecomment-330782700
>> A prominent case of such a request is from the Gnome Maps team, who
>> decided not to use the Default style for this reason:
>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=764841#c35
>> From an ideologic viewpoint, I am very much in favour of not giving
>> preferential treatment to any particular language. Using the local
>> language seems fair in this respect. On the other hand, from a
>> pragmatic point of view I can also see that using English (in
>> addition) would significantly increase the usefulness of the map to
>> many people.
>> I would be interested to know what others think about this. An option,
>> for example, would be to display countries names, and perhaps the
>> names of big cities, in English as well as in the local language.
>> Note: making the map available in multiple language versions is
>> something we like to do in the future, however, this requires quite
>> significant technical changes. Therefore, this is out of scope for
>> now.
>> More information on this issue can be found on Github:
>> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/803
>> I'm looking forward to your opinions.
>> Kind regards,
>> Matthijs Melissen
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