[OSM-talk] Fwd: Re[2]: Tag:manhole=telecom

[François Lacombe]

To me, manhole applies in the two situations.

We should make a distinction between the "cap" visible from the surface and
the facility underground.
Same shape of "cap" (I call it the manhole actually) can hide really
different kind of stuff underground you won't be able to define without
removing the cap.
In OSM, most mappers will only be able to describe what is visible on
surface. So this distinction would really be valuable.

When I look for "cable manhole" in google, I see both pavement and road
manholes.
Then I found this :
https://www.archiexpo.com/prod/dakota-group/product-150519-1693688.html

The body below surface, buried underground would be called a "cable room".

All the best

François

Le dim. 19 avr. 2020 à 23:14, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk <
talk at openstreetmap.org> a écrit :

>  this is an enclosure just put in the ground, level 3 fiber.
>
> https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/mapillary.private.images/4KIBU1qe2CfjtcKtPHegeg/uploaded.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAR47SN3BMII5SHG7V&Expires=1587328637&Signature=8%2FzNiW16zbU9FjWy0JD17cNwIns%3D
> https://www.thefoa.org/tech/ref/install/Microtrenching/Pages/25.html
>
> this is a manhole, ameritech, a t & t.
>
> https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/mapillary.private.images/dSk9MhzCx0L0AAFzD-WqYQ/uploaded.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAR47SN3BMII5SHG7V&Expires=1587329086&Signature=o%2F0CqAKQC1ltl0F2vCqXVIecRP4%3D
>
>
> https://www.jensenprecast.com/AT-T-Northern-California-a840/Telecom-Utility-Structures/Manholes-p14890/AT-T-4-x4-x4-fiber-optic-Intercept-Manhole-Page-1-of-2-d2315.pdf
>
>
> Sunday, April 19, 2020 3:06 PM -05:00 from Tom Pfeifer <
> t.pfeifer at computer.org>:
>
> Dear 80hnhtv4agou,
>
> As OpenStreetMap is a worldwide project, we have to agree on a tagging
> scheme for an object that
> is worldwide comprehensible.
>
> We prefer to use the same tag for the same kind of thing.
>
> Thus we prefer not to introduce synonyms or regional variations.
>
> To make a feature be found more easily, "related terms" can be added in
> the wiki.
>
> In the particular case, some friendly colleague has already added ‹buried
> cable enclosure›
> to the manhole=telecom wiki page.
>
> Kind regards
> Tom
>
> On 19.04.2020 17:20, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote:
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:manhole=telecom
> >
> > in the united states this is not what it is called, so it was hard for
> me to find to use.
> >
> > can the name be changed.
> >
> >
> https://www.multicominc.com/product/pencell-pem-2436-24x36x24-buried-cable-enclosure/
> >
> > to what it is ?
>
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