[OSM-talk] Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM
matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Sun Aug 9 08:42:21 UTC 2020
Aug 9, 2020, 10:25 by pangose at riseup.net:
> I suggest we create a roadmap for deprecating of storing and updating names in OSM for objects with a Wikidata tag.
tagging name tag is a fundamental part of OSM tag,
offloading it to a third party service is a mistake that will not happen
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/19655 contains several misleading, wrong, mistaken
and problematic claims, statements and implications but I have no time to process in detail
as the entire idea is fundamentally bad, mistaken, problematic, broken, not workable,
not acceptable, not going to happen and wrong.
"there is no such thing as an international name. Names are part of a
language whih is part of a culture. They are not GIS objects and the
osm datamodel does not handle this complexity well at all."
Are you aware that we have other tags beyond name tag?
loc_name, name:pl and many others?
"No more name vandalism in osm. We export the name handling to
wikidata which has a much better system for handling vandalism."
Because vandalism in third-party service is superior?
Are you seriously claiming that Wikidata has less trouble with vandalism
and deals with it better?
> Substantial changes will have to be made:
> * nominatim will need to support fetching names from wikidata somehow. It could probably be done on the fly.
Untrue, Nominatim is doing it already.
> retire signing up as OSM user on osm.org and ask users to create a Wikimedia account instead and log in with that?
If you think that it is a viable idea then you are mistaken.
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