[OSM-talk] Deleting template parameters copied to data items

Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org
Fri Jan 17 14:59:41 UTC 2020


On 15.01.20 14:03, Christoph Hormann wrote:
> This is a move that has been a long time coming as part of a piecemeal 
> effort by some to establish a technocratic rule on the OSM wiki by 
> moving central content out of the control of the mappers into the 
> domain of data items with higher hurdles of participation due to poor 
> ergonomics (the whole concept of requiring human editors to deal with 
> numerical IDs for features that already have a unique identifier in OSM 
> by design never ceases to amaze me) and with an established ability of 
> the technocrats to control the crowd sourced editing work with bots.

I agree with this sentiment whole-heartedly and have commented the wiki
discussion accordingly.

> The real discussion that needs to be done is how we can get to a better
> documentation of the actual use of tags by humans for humans.  We have
> had some useful discussion on this at SotM last year and in a follow-up
> here:

Over the years, a couple of people have time and time again suggested
that we get down and make a nice, curated, text-based catalogue of tags
maintained by a team, potentially on a git-like system where pull
requests can be submitted by everyone, but maintainers have to approve

I was always on the fence about this, because it would install a
maintainer team with more powers than the average user. But in the face
of a wiki that is more and more moving into a direction where you need
to have a degree in Wikidata to even participate, and where anything you
contribute will be mowed over three times by this bot and that bot in
order to fit into some structure that someone else has devised with
practically zero community oversight, I think I'll prefer the git-based
human-readable "tag atlas".


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