[OSM-talk] river - stream
Dave F
davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com
Mon Jun 8 14:22:48 UTC 2020
Drop down options are not the only choice. You can add your own.
It's not compulsory to use those options. Common sense should be used.
If there's a bridge over, don't add tunnel/culvert to the way going under.
DaveF
On 08/06/2020 15:01, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote:
> YES !, i guess what i am saying i would like to see more drop down
> options.
>
> Monday, June 8, 2020 8:36 AM -05:00 from nwastra <nwastra at gmail.com>:
> I am not very familiar with the iD editor but I notice that where
> a stream and highway cross, what boxes and dropdowns are offered
> depends what you have selected.
> If you have the stream selected you will be offered
> tunnel/culvert/layer/etc as options.
> If you have the highway selected you will be offered
> bridge/tunnel/ford/etc.
> Is this the reason you are not seeing the options you expect?
>
> On 8 Jun 2020, at 10:49 pm, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
> <talk at openstreetmap.org
> <//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3atalk at openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
>>
>> i guss what i am saying, add a tunnel is wrong, when the road
>> is on the bridge, and the drop down box
>>
>> says culvert. again i am only seeing the ID map.
>
>> i just tried it, it only says add a tunnel, then river is under
>> bridge.
>>
>> Monday, June 8, 2020 7:00 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny
>> via talk <talk at openstreetmap.org>:
>> Is there anything wrong with that?
>> Jun 8, 2020, 13:57 by talk at openstreetmap.org
>> <//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3atalk at openstreetmap.org>:
>>
>> in the ID editor, if you draw a stream - river line,
>> and it crosses a road, you get a warning, with the
>> suggestion
>> add a bridge or tunnel.
>>
>> Monday, June 8, 2020 5:13 AM -05:00 from Martin
>> Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>:
>> Am Sa., 6. Juni 2020 um 18:02 Uhr schrieb Dave F
>> via talk <talk at openstreetmap.org
>> <http://e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3atalk@openstreetmap.org>>:
>>
>> Do you have an example?
>>
>> A simple example for a tunnel (here subway) on a
>> bridge would be this:
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/757824513
>> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pont_Morand
>>
>> Whether it's a bridge or tunnel is fairly
>> easily defined by determining
>> which is taking the load.
>> If a tunnel's structure was removed, would
>> whitewater's above it
>> collapse? If 'yes' then it's a tunnel.
>>
>> what I wrote was that - according to some
>> technical definitions - a tunnel must not have
>> something above it, it may be sufficient that it
>> is closed and long enough. I am not sure if we
>> share these definitions in OSM.
>> According to the current wiki, "a tunnel is an
>> underground passage for a road or similar." and
>> also: "tunnel=* is used for roads, railway line,
>> canals etc that run underground (in tunnel
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Tunnel>). "
>> This doesn't appear to be exhaustive / complete,
>> tunnels could also run underwater, above ground
>> and potentially in the future even in space, no?
>> Many current underwater tunnels are also
>> "underground", as they are often running in a man
>> made structure (embankment like) on the ground or
>> below the water body/river in the ground
>> Cheers
>> Martin
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