[OSM-talk] Is edit adding private dataset created specially for OSM considered an import or not?

pangoSE pangose at riseup.net
Wed Feb 3 15:29:34 UTC 2021


Thanks for sharing this original idea that got watered down.

I was not aware of that. Gated communities sound no good. 

Matheusz, please ask them to share the source of the data and let everyone have the same access to the imagery being used to trace from.

If they are unable or unwilling to do that I'm unsure if this is of any value to OSM.



Christoph Hormann <osm at imagico.de> skrev: (3 februari 2021 12:35:44 CET)
>On Wednesday 03 February 2021, Andy Townsend wrote:
>>   * The imagery is allegedly OK from a licence standpoint (based on
>> one mapper's changeset comments)
>
>Because of exactly this kind of issue my early draft for regulation of 
>organized editing[1] contained a provision for that:
>
>"If you use any data in organized mapping activities that has not been 
>directly observed on the ground by the mapper and that is not routinely
>
>used by normal mapping in OSM (like those listed in Potential 
>Datasources or Aerial imagery or the OSM Editor Layer Index) you need 
>to follow Import/Guidelines in addition."
>
>What this rule was meant to address in particular was the potential 
>formation of gated mapping communities with exclusive access to 
>specific data sources which would work massively against OSMs core idea
>
>of egalitarian cooperation between mappers.
>
>Unfortunately only a mallable documentation requirement remained from 
>that idea in actual OSMF policy.
>
>To answer the question from Mateusz - mapping that is being made:
>
>* specifically for OSM use,
>* based exclusively on on-the-ground knowledge and primary data like 
>imagery,
>* by human mappers who have full control over every part of the data 
>generation process and
>* that does not use any kind of automated conflation with existing data
>
>does in my opinion not fall under the import or automated edits 
>guidelines, even if it is made in large volume.  Note however that 
>especially the last condition is very hard to meet in most parts of the
>
>world these days when you make extensive edits in bulk.
>
>[1] 
>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Directed_Editing_Policy/Imagico_Draft
>
>-- 
>Christoph Hormann
>https://www.imagico.de/
>
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