[OSM-talk] Survey coming

Mike Thompson miketho16 at gmail.com
Sun Jan 10 17:10:09 UTC 2021


On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:53 AM Allan Mustard <
allan.mustard at osmfoundation.org> wrote:

> We are asking for optional demographic data so we can gauge bias in the
> sample.
>
Self-selection bias is not just about some demographics being over or under
represented. It is about people's likelihood of responding being correlated
with their answers.

Mike



> On 1/10/2021 11:47 AM, John Whelan wrote:
>
> Sounds good to me.  One problem is self selection so as long as you are
> aware of it that's fine.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> Allan Mustard wrote on 2021-01-10 11:38:
>
> John:  We are casting the net as widely as possible, so please amplify
> this message through your preferred communications channels.  We will
> circulate the URL for the survey via talk lists, which will allow anyone
> with a valid email address to request a single-use token that will allow
> the respondent to participate in the survey once.  In theory individuals
> with multiple email addresses could respond multiple times, but we will
> abide by the OSM Etiquette Guidelines and "assume good faith".  The target
> audience is the broad OSM community--anybody who creates, supports, or uses
> OSM data.
>
> As a statistical economist, believe it or not I have actually run surveys
> in the past, so am not a complete novice, but if you have the names of
> people you'd like the Board to talk to about surveys, please PM me.
>
> Imre:  Lime Survey allows only one entry for English.  BTW, if you live in
> Budapest, stop by Gerbeaud's and have a piece of Dobos tort for me...
>
> cheers,
> apm
> On 1/10/2021 9:56 AM, john whelan wrote:
>
> One of the biggest problems is the sample.  Ideally you need to decide on
> your target audience.  Is it anyone who has ever signed up or anyone who
> has mapped more than five times in the last two years?  Or even anyone who
> has an interest?  That could be consumers of the data.
>
> I'd suggest a random sample, extract a list of users who meet the
> criteria.  Then look at the sample size.  There are mathematical rules
> about how large a sample size should be.
>
> You have their email addreses, check the privacy laws but I think you
> should be able to contact them directly.
>
> Ballot stuffing, send the link with number in it so it can only be used
> once.
>
> Respondent burden, if you sample 10% twice a year that should give you
> enough information and mean you don't bug people very often.
>
> Talk to people who run surveys.
>
> Cheerio John
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 09:30 Imre Samu <pella.samu at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > which is now being translated into multiple languages,
>> > and which we hope will be ready for release in several languages on or
>> about January 15th.
>>
>> Is it possible to add a "Simple/Basic English" [1]  translation as an
>> experiment ?
>>
>> So expecting:
>> -  basic english words ( <=1000 basic words)
>> -  basic grammar , no short forms  ( so 'you're' --> 'you are' )
>> -  basic OSM knowledge ( no special words like: SotM )
>>    - "State of the Map conference"  --> "OpenStreetMap conference"
>>
>> probably too late for this survey ... maybe in the future.
>>
>> IMHO:   We need to invent a *polite MapSpeak *language ( ~ OpenStreetMap
>> Community Mappers Communication Phrases )
>>     (  ~ "designed to facilitate *non-violent communication *between
>> mappers" ) like a Seaspeak [2]
>>
>> thanks
>>   Imre
>>   ( native hungarian,  from a country with ~20% total English speakers[3]
>> )
>>
>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_English
>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seaspeak
>> [3]
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English-speaking_population
>>
>>
>>
>> Allan Mustard <allan.mustard at osmfoundation.org> ezt írta (időpont: 2021.
>> jan. 10., V, 2:47):
>>
>>> Fellow mappers and OSM community members,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The OpenStreetMap Foundation Board of Directors has prepared a survey,
>>> which is now being translated into multiple languages, and which we hope
>>> will be ready for release in several languages on or about January 15th.
>>> Please be on the lookout for announcement of it, and please alert your
>>> colleagues through other communications channels (social media, talk
>>> channels, whatever) that it is coming and to be on the lookout for it.
>>> Please feel free to amplify this message in other languages and through
>>> other comms channels.  We want maximum participation in the survey!  We
>>> want to know what you are thinking!  Please participate in the survey when
>>> it comes out, and please alert others so they participate, too!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While I have your attention, Happy New Year—let’s hope we can soon put
>>> COVID-19 behind us, all get vaccinated, and look forward to a mappier 2021!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> apm
>>>
>>> *Allan Mustard*
>>>
>>> *Chairperson, Board of Directors*
>>>
>>> *OpenStreetMap Foundation*
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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