[OSM-talk] Persian/Arabian Gulf Tagging

Abdullah Abdulrhman abdullahOSM at outlook.com
Wed Jul 7 13:42:50 UTC 2021

Why do you want to impose the Persian name on the name tag and ignore the Arabic name even though most of the countries around the Gulf use the Arabic name, and the Arab countries have longer coasts than the Iranian coasts and their territorial waters within the Gulf are more spacious than them, and the peoples around the Gulf region are mostly Arab and this applies Even over Iran, and Iran's control of the "Ahvaz" does not change the fact that the residents of Al-Ahwaz are Arabs in very large proportions, which makes the Arabs a majority around the Gulf from all sides.
Before that, we were looking for a joint solution, and this proposal would only lead to more problems between the two parties and would lead to a continuous modification of the title and endless wars of edits.

From: Ebrahim Nejati via talk <talk at openstreetmap.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2021 3:14 PM
To: Bert -Araali- Van Opstal <bert.araali.afritastic at gmail.com>; talk at openstreetmap.org <talk at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Persian/Arabian Gulf Tagging

Hello Bert,
Thank you for your detailed and comprehensive post.

Bert -Araali- Van Opstal <bert.araali.afritastic at gmail.com> writes:

> Please, Ebrahim, you brought up the issue, summarize and conclude so we
> have a way forward.

Though it has been discussed, it's a sensitive issue and I can't simply
conclude. However, considering your post, I'll try my best.

> 1. What key:name to use for this water body ?
> So the most recent authoritative resource gazetting the name
> for the international waters should be used, being "Persian Gulf", in
> the key:name in English as the international language used. key:alt_name
> can be used for alternative names, used by some minorities in the "world
> community", so "Arabian Gulf;Gulf of Iran;Gulf of Basra" can be
> alternative names for the international waters.
Here's how I concludeed about this part:
name=Persian Gulf
alt_name=Arabian Gulf;Gulf of Iran;Gulf of Basra

> 2. What key:name to use for the Iranian and Arabian preference ?
name:fa=خلیج فارس
alt_name:fa=خلیج عربی؛ خلیج ایران؛ خلیج بصره

name:ar=الخليج العربي
alt_name:ar=الخلیج فارسي؛ الخلیج ایراني؛ خليج البصرة

I'm waiting for everyone (especially DWG members) to give their opinion
on these in order to close this issue.


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