[OSM-talk] Persian/Arabian Gulf Tagging
abdullahOSM at outlook.com
Thu Jul 8 03:39:07 UTC 2021
> I don't think we are here to give a new definition on what an
> international water body is. Persian Gulf is an international water body
> by any international norms and even common sense. So lets not manipulate
> these very established definitions.
The water body of the Gulf, unlike other water bodies such as the oceans, where the Gulf has large areas of its water body within the borders of the surrounding countries, so you cannot impose a name that is not recognized by those countries and is not commonly used in them, and also with regard to international waters, there is no UN resolution It obliges and imposes states and organizations to use a specific name for the Gulf, and all that is cited in this aspect is letters from some different countries, some call them by the Arabic name and some by the Persian name.
> Please do not deny the political motives behind calling
> this gulf as Arabian Gulf.
We want to put the Arabic name because it is the common name in this region and trying to ignore and deny this is the politically motivated thing to try to erase the Arab identity and even transgress and sabotage the maps of Arab countries!
> I don't think he is taking any side. He is talking based on rationality
> and international norms. If centuries of history and the well
> established international recognition for the name of this international
> water body suggest for Persian Gulf, then lets accept the political
> motive for hijacking it and forcing everybody to call it Arabian Gulf.
Attempting to impose one of the ancient historical names is not a rational matter, and trying to transform the issue into a political one. This is a false claim. The correct fact is that the Arabic name is the common and used in this water body, and the fact that he does not know this and believes in political motives makes him biased towards the other side.
> Yet I think it makes sense to introduce name:country:language for such
> cases. I believe people living around the gulf have the right to call it
> as per their wish in their own native language.
Whether or not this proposal was accepted, what, as I previously explained, the common name is the Arabic name and it must be on the name tag, which is not as you claim that it is only an official name, the Arabic name for the Gulf is a common and well-known name, and your denial of the Arabic name I think is because you hate everything that is Arab for racist political motives
> Again, using Persian Gulf which has historical and international ground,
> cannot be called imposition. This name has been there though out
> history. Don't impose your desired name.
The historical name has changed repeatedly and since 1400 years and more (the fall of the Persian Empire) and based on the wars and conflicts in the region and the attempt to impose one name on another on the pretext that it is historical does not change anything in the matter, the name that is known now is different from what it was historically
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