[OSM-talk] Ukraine - how one may help

[Mateusz Konieczny]

Feb 28, 2022, 08:11 by talk at openstreetmap.org:

>
> I could envision creating project(s) to complete the border area road network quickly using RapiD which has AI generated roads from 2019-12-30. As we know, it's not perfect but could be better than just asking the crowd to fill in roads manually.
>
That is not a good idea, for start there are some border-control roads.

RapiD is also in my experience in Poland offering suggestions of really low
quality, worse that complete beginner to OSM would be.

In general RapiD everywhere requires human review.

Though mapping of roads in Poland based on careful use 
of Geoportal.gov.pl imagery (and other imagery in rare cases where other imagery is 
newer, though geoportal.gov.pl is still optimal and gold source of alignment)

And value from adding roads is lower than adding fake border crossing that is not
existing or adding minor/dangerous road as accessible.

> Of course open to other suggestions and most importantly don't want to do anything the local community would not condone.
>
Usual careful, high-quality mapping would be useful.

Note: mapping in Ukraine should be consulted with community there.

Adding latest news about destroyed bridges may be more helpful for invading
Russians who may monitor various sources for info collected by people.

>
> Peace,
> =Russ
>
> Russell Deffner
>
> Russell.Deffner at hotosm.org <https://hotosm.org>
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 11:46:42 +0100 (CET)
>> From: Mateusz Konieczny <>> matkoniecz at tutanota.com>> >
>> To: OSM Talk <>> talk at openstreetmap.org>> >
>> Subject: [OSM-talk] Ukraine - how one may help (>> dopomoha.pl <http://dopomoha.pl>>> )
>> Message-ID: <>> MwpcwmF--3-2 at tutanota.com>> >
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Polish community is preparing a map/service that is intended to help Ukrainian
>> refugees (100 000 refugees crossed border with Poland so far, millions are expected,
>> current reported rate is 47 500 people each day[1][2])
>>
>> Site is for now just in the initial states of creation, soon background tiles
>> should be switched to prefer display of Ukrainian names if present.
>>
>> So far only reception points are marked, there are plans for more.
>>
>> Site is at
>> https://dopomoha.pl/en/#map=7/50.538/24.055
>>
>>
>> How one may help
>>
>> Mapping:
>> - mapping Eastern Poland (OSM quality is relatively good in Poland but even
>> roads are sometimes missing)
>> ?? - remember to use >> Geoportal.gov.pl <http://Geoportal.gov.pl>>>  as the primary imagery and for aligning objects
>> - mapping name:uk where missing (though that may be better left for people
>> who know language)
>>
>> Development:
>> - submit pull request to >> https://github.com/openstreetmap-polska/ua-2022-map
>> (consult first - via github issue or other channel mentioned below)
>>
>>
>> Help welcome!
>>
>> If you want to contact feel free to join (and use English there)
>>
>> - >> https://discord.gg/HvQWsMeQzT>>  (Polish Discord, see channel #ukraina-2022
>> - >> https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=23>>  (Polish forum)
>> - >> kontakt at siecaed.pl
>>
>>
>> More ideas will likely appear soon. Sorry that things are a bit chaotic.
>>
>> [1] >> https://tvn24.pl/polska/atak-rosji-na-ukraine-sytuacja-na-przejsciu-granicznym-w-medyce-mswia-100-tys-uchodzcow-z-ukrainy-przekroczylo-do-tej-pory-granice-z-polska-5614563
>> [2] >> https://twojeradio.fm/straz-graniczna-do-polski-z-ukrainy-w-piatek-wjechalo-ponad-47-tysiecy-osob.html
>> ?
>> (forwarding info from Polish OSM community)
>>

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/attachments/20220228/78c0942a/attachment.htm>