[OSM-talk] Was the deletion of Null Island reasonable?

[john whelan]

So an alternative might be an also known as on the bouy.

In general my feeling is if a mapper on the ground is unable to verify it
or it isn't an accepted international standard such as the date line it
shouldn't be in the map.

Cheerio John

On Sun, Jan 2, 2022, 10:04 PM Brian M. Sperlongano, <zelonewolf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The buoy is there and separately mapped under the buoy's actual name.  The
> deleted null island node was a separate node created specifically to hold
> the "Null Island" name.
>
> On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 9:53 PM Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Isn't there a buoy there? And it is even called null island... so
>> technically it is a physical place with a proper demarcation that can be
>> verified by a visiting seagull...
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 2, 2022, 9:46 PM stevea <steveaOSM at softworkers.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Null Island exists as a concept, much like the North Pole does.  Even if
>>> "there is no there there" it is a real enough concept (not a joke) to not
>>> call imaginary.  It is a place that represents something (I'd call it real,
>>> as real as a concept), even if nothing is physically there.  We have such
>>> things in OSM elsewhere, for example political boundaries lean in that
>>> direction, yet we still map them.
>>>
>>> And if a way can be said to be one dimensional (and a closed way /
>>> polygon two), a node is effectively zero dimensional.  It's the merest
>>> whisper of "something is exactly right here" even if there is physically
>>> nothing there.
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