[OSM-talk] EG/Doxxing | Re: New moderation team &, , etiquette guidelines for talk@ & osmf-talk@ list

[Allan Mustard]

Well, the moderators are not going to sit down and write a Law on 
Acceptable Behavior for the OSM community, which is what you appear to 
be asking for ("Laws exist so that justice can be fair for everyone in a 
pluralistic society"). The expectation is that members of the community 
will be polite and respectful of each other, and will avoid offensive 
behavior.

As for cultural differences, that is handled by the Stage 1 response, 
which is a polite, private email to the presumed offender, asking 
politely for moderation of the rhetoric.

Complaints do not have to be public. They can be submitted privately to 
the moderators. When I was on the OSMF Board, it received private 
complaints, and sought to deal with them discreetly. There is thus no 
privilege for the "outgoing or brave".

Incidentally, I am no longer Chairperson of the OSMF. I stepped down 
last December after deciding not to run for re-election to the Board. 
Guillaume Rischard now chairs the Board.

cheers,
apm

On 6/10/2022 1:39 PM, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
>
>
>     > Whether this or that statement will deeply offend another
>     community member is something we shall have to wait and see
>
>
> It is not good policy to govern a community on a case-by-case basis, 
> when it includes more than one culture
>
> Laws exist so that justice can be fair for everyone in a pluralistic 
> society
>
> Traditional societies with a uniform culture, for example a remote 
> village in Papua, can function well without any written law code, 
> because the cultural conventions are passed down by observation and 
> word of mouth, and everyone knows what is expected of them.
>
> But as a multicultural, trans-national community, we need clearer 
> rules, if there are going to be consequences to violations. What is 
> considered offensive in Amsterdam, the Netherlands is quite different 
> than what is offensive in a rural village in Indonesia
>
> A standard of action of "was someone deeply offended?" will privilege 
> protecting those who are outgoing or brave enough to complain publicly.
>
> On the other hand, it could unfairly be used against a contributor who 
> unintentionally caused offense due to cultural differences or 
> misunderstandings.
>
> Fortunately, the actual Etiquette Guidelines document seems to 
> acknowledge these issues (see 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Etiquette/Etiquette_Guidelines#Expected_Behavior) 
> - so I am surprised that the Chairperson of OSMF (Allan Mustard) seems 
> to have a different understanding.
>
> -- Joseph Eisenberg
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