[OSM-dev] Pl at ntNet contributing to OpenStreetMap

Tue Aug 9 15:23:53 UTC 2022

Quick addition, (I should really go check on the tagging email list).
It seems that Vespucci 
<https://github.com/MarcusWolschon/osmeditor4android/blob/master/src/main/AndroidManifest.xml> 
is a very good OSM editor, would a better integration with the app be 
the better way to go?

Best,

Le 09/08/2022 à 16:56, Hugo Gresse a écrit :
>
> Hi Michael & everyone,
>
> Thank you all for the enthusiasm and answers!
>
> 1) Regarding putting only trees, we don't have this information for 
> the moment. We'll let the user know to only put trees on OSM.
>
> 2) If we only go for specific prefilled tags (species, taxon:family, 
> source, natural) the user will need to pick the correct location of 
> the tree. For now, I'm only adding the button on geolocalized owned 
> observation.
>
> 3) Regarding a plant layer in OSM, I believe the best source would be 
> to use gbif.org. They have the most complete biodiversity database and 
> many apps are already pushing to it (including iNaturalist, Pl at ntNet, etc)
>
> 4) Quick question regardings tags, should the authorship of the 
> species be put on OSM (eg: species:Epilobium angustifolium _*L.*_)? I 
> did not find any info regarding the author of the species on the OSM 
> wiki.
>
>
> Last note, I'll wait for more feedback on this to complete the pull 
> request on my side. If the feature is completed as if, it will be 
> shipped in version 3.11 in September)
>
>
> Best,
>
> Le 09/08/2022 à 16:11, Michael Collinson a écrit :
>> Hi Hugo,
>>
>> I use and contribute to Pl at ntNet and it is truly great and a 
>> marvellous endeavour. A thank you to you for working on it! I am also 
>> a believer in "the more the merrier" as a doctrine for OpenStreetMap.
>>
>> I am however dubious about pushing observations into the 
>> OpenStreetMap database, if my understanding is correct as to the intent.
>>
>> Two reasons,
>>
>> 1) I contribute things like cultivated and wild plants in my garden 
>> and nearby road verges along with geolocation for anyone interested 
>> in looking at geographic spread. I don't think (purely personal view) 
>> that is of 100% value to OpenStreetMap itself - i.e rather like the 
>> Wikipedia notability criteria.  At most, I'd have a filter for only 
>> trees.
>>
>> 2) As I recall from my usage, there are choices when it comes to 
>> geolocation. One is to get a GPS fix, so in the sort of accuracy used 
>> by OpenStreetMap.  The other is to use a push pin - I wonder to what 
>> extent folks deliberately make it less than precise for privacy 
>> reason. Just speculating, but that would not be useful for 
>> OpenStreetMap. I've seen some of the ?Corrine tree cover imports and 
>> they are generally terrible. Could observations be restricted to GPS 
>> only?+
>>
>> I am going to forward my response and your mail to Jerry Clough who 
>> is both a very active OSMer and a biologist as I am not sure if he is 
>> on this list. He might have some more authoritative thoughts ... but 
>> that is up to him!
>>
>> What might be nice (and perhaps useful!) would a plant observation 
>> layer in OSM format that can be combined those interested. I think we 
>> at OpenStreetMap may be missing an opportunity to incorporate 
>> scientific and citizen science data into our ecosphere. The static 
>> natural world - plants, geology and geomorphology - has some sort of 
>> role I'm sure.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On 2022-08-09 15:15, Hugo Gresse wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm working on Pl at ntNet <http://plantnet.org/> mobile app (32 M 
>>> users) which allow users to identify plants and contribute/share 
>>> them (with the geolocation) on Pl at ntNet database. The data is then 
>>> available for everyone and also pushed to GBIF.org (a free global 
>>> biodiversity database).
>>>
>>> Users requested a feature to push their plant observations to OSM 
>>> into Wikidata format.
>>>
>>> The current plan to do this is to have a copy button in the app 
>>> which will format the data in text and put it in the user clipboard 
>>> on his mobile device: ||
>>>
>>> |genus=Cercis name=arbre de la piscine natural=tree species=Cercis 
>>> siliquastrum species:fr=Arbre de Judée src=survey;Observation : 
>>> Cercis siliquastrum L. (Pascal Vuylsteker 17 juin 2021) Flore 
>>> mondiale - Pl at ntNet identify |
>>>
>>> Would that be ok or ideal?
>>>
>>> If not, what could be done to facilitate adding data to OSM through 
>>> Pl at ntNet?
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> -- 
>>> *Hugo Gresse*
>>> Mobile engineer for Pl at ntNet <https://plantnet.org/> at INRIA / UMR AMAP
>>> Montpellier, FRANCE
>>>
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> Montpellier, FRANCE
>
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