[GraphHopper] Bicycle navigation on separate cycleways

Peter graphhopper at gmx.de
Tue Dec 9 15:19:23 UTC 2014


As a workaround for routing, yes. But I don't like the idea to map for
routers :)

If these cases are happening very often we could try to merge the
cycleways while import with their main streets

Regards,
Peter

On 09.12.2014 16:10, Marc Gemis wrote:
> The cases I'm thinking about are like number 6
> on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bremen/Radverkehrsanlagen
> So it might be best to keep them as cycleway=track on the main street
> in those cases. 
>
>
> regards
>
> m
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Peter <graphhopper at gmx.de
> <mailto:graphhopper at gmx.de>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks for the links!
>
>     This is really complex matter when I think more about it. As the
>     street itself could be too dangerous to pass or with a fence to
>     avoid (bike/pedestrian) crossing
>
>     Peter
>
>
>
>     On 09.12.2014 15:51, Marc Gemis wrote:
>>     BTW, it seems like there is some interest in this topic on the
>>     German mailing list as well, under the title "cycleway=track bei
>>     Bordstein Trennung" [1]
>>     it is more general than what I was asking for.
>>
>>     regards
>>
>>     m
>>
>>     [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2014-December/109941.html
>>
>>     On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:marc.gemis at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>         On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Peter <graphhopper at gmx.de
>>         <mailto:graphhopper at gmx.de>> wrote:
>>
>>             Hi Marc,
>>
>>             off-the-list you have posted this example:
>>             https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=53.077057%2C8.836741&point=53.076918%2C8.836613&vehicle=bike&elevation=true&layer=Lyrk
>>
>>             > As we add more detail to OSM, people start to draw them
>>             as separate lines
>>
>>             That is a tough problem.
>>
>>             If there is only a distinct connection from cycleway to
>>             the main street you should map it as one or more
>>             connecting streets. If there is a free and accessible
>>             area between the cycleway and the main street and this
>>             area can be crossed by bike or (only) foot you should map
>>             it as such. Although we currently do not support area
>>             routing, it should not be that hard to add:
>>             https://github.com/graphhopper/graphhopper/issues/82
>>
>>
>>         It seems closely related to landuse=highway, but it is not
>>         the same. This weekend I'l see a number of Belgian mappers.
>>         I'll try to discuss it there as well.
>>          
>>
>>
>>
>>             > Another problem is that those cycleways have no name, while it would be
>>             nice that the name of the street would taken.
>>             > The might be solved with the Lübeck scheme that uses
>>             the street-relation to bring all parts together.
>>
>>             Do you have a link to that schema?
>>
>>
>>         http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/L%C3%BCbeck/Fahrradstadtplan#Radwege-Mapping_in_OpenStreetMap
>>         (in German)
>>          
>>         regards
>>
>>         m
>>
>>

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