[GraphHopper] Bicycle navigation on separate cycleways
Peter
graphhopper at gmx.de
Tue Dec 9 15:19:23 UTC 2014
As a workaround for routing, yes. But I don't like the idea to map for
routers :)
If these cases are happening very often we could try to merge the
cycleways while import with their main streets
Regards,
Peter
On 09.12.2014 16:10, Marc Gemis wrote:
> The cases I'm thinking about are like number 6
> on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bremen/Radverkehrsanlagen
> So it might be best to keep them as cycleway=track on the main street
> in those cases.
>
>
> regards
>
> m
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Peter <graphhopper at gmx.de
> <mailto:graphhopper at gmx.de>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the links!
>
> This is really complex matter when I think more about it. As the
> street itself could be too dangerous to pass or with a fence to
> avoid (bike/pedestrian) crossing
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> On 09.12.2014 15:51, Marc Gemis wrote:
>> BTW, it seems like there is some interest in this topic on the
>> German mailing list as well, under the title "cycleway=track bei
>> Bordstein Trennung" [1]
>> it is more general than what I was asking for.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> m
>>
>> [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2014-December/109941.html
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com
>> <mailto:marc.gemis at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Peter <graphhopper at gmx.de
>> <mailto:graphhopper at gmx.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Marc,
>>
>> off-the-list you have posted this example:
>> https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=53.077057%2C8.836741&point=53.076918%2C8.836613&vehicle=bike&elevation=true&layer=Lyrk
>>
>> > As we add more detail to OSM, people start to draw them
>> as separate lines
>>
>> That is a tough problem.
>>
>> If there is only a distinct connection from cycleway to
>> the main street you should map it as one or more
>> connecting streets. If there is a free and accessible
>> area between the cycleway and the main street and this
>> area can be crossed by bike or (only) foot you should map
>> it as such. Although we currently do not support area
>> routing, it should not be that hard to add:
>> https://github.com/graphhopper/graphhopper/issues/82
>>
>>
>> It seems closely related to landuse=highway, but it is not
>> the same. This weekend I'l see a number of Belgian mappers.
>> I'll try to discuss it there as well.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Another problem is that those cycleways have no name, while it would be
>> nice that the name of the street would taken.
>> > The might be solved with the Lübeck scheme that uses
>> the street-relation to bring all parts together.
>>
>> Do you have a link to that schema?
>>
>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/L%C3%BCbeck/Fahrradstadtplan#Radwege-Mapping_in_OpenStreetMap
>> (in German)
>>
>> regards
>>
>> m
>>
>>
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