[Osmf-talk] 2015 AGM results

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Gregory,

>As I understand it, we do not know if Ilya/Peter/Martijn were placed as
anybody's 2nd, 3rd, 4th,... or 11th choice.

Yes, you're correct of course. I'm hoping that Richard will produce a graph
similar to last year's "Candidate ranks on ballots":
http://weait.com/stat-blast-2

I had a quick look at the provided blt file, but didn't dig into it apart
from running it through openstv and coming up with the same election
results. Any further analysis is beyond me at the moment when I'm supposed
to be doing other things, but it's certainly an interesting event.

Cheers, Joseph



On 16 December 2015 at 17:38, Gregory <sotm at livingwithdragons.com> wrote:

> Hi Joseph,
>
> As Paul said...
> "Be careful of drawing conclusions from the numbers and particularly "vote
> counts" - you can't come up with a simple candidate ranking in an STV
> election for multiple positions because conceptually one does not exist."
>
> As I understand it, we do not know if Ilya/Peter/Martijn were placed as
> anybody's 2nd, 3rd, 4th,... or 11th choice.
> If you ignore the rounds, you could say Mikel was a strong 1st-choice
> candidate with only 8 votes short of the requirement (with Willie being a
> further 32 1st-choice-votes behind Mikel). Of course, such a statement
> ignores that people voted knowing they could multiple choices.
>
> I ranked my votes, as STV allows. However I didn't really care which order
> my 1st & 2nd choices were in. I didn't really care which order my 4th & 5th
> were in (I only wanted to vote for them "less" than my first 2 choices),
> and my 6th, 7th, and 8th choices I voted for just because I felt they were
> a better option than the remaining candidates (which I didn't vote for).
> Unfortunately, STV doesn't allow me to put breaks in my voting (I did try),
> so no analysis from the voting record can say exactly how strong a
> candidate is.
>
> What is a strong candidate? Well (assume the majority votes as I do), if
> my 1st choice didn't run, my 2nd choice is more likely to come 1st place
> and thus is/was a stronger candidate.
>
> From slightly South of the 55th parallel North,
> Gregory.
>
>
> On 16 December 2015 at 17:01, Joseph Reeves <iknowjoseph at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've graphed the results of the 6 rounds as attached. Does this make
>> sense?
>>
>> Looks like the 4 successful candidates were strong from the start, with
>> the 7 remaining of us achieving similar sorts of numbers.
>>
>> Cheers, Joseph
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15 December 2015 at 22:23, Paul Norman <penorman at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/8/2015 5:38 PM, Paul Norman wrote:
>>>
>>>> I hope to have full vote breakdowns soon, but don't yet have that
>>>> information to publish.
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> I hope to complete minutes soon, but the essential information is here.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have the information, but still need to write up the minutes,
>>> hopefully this week.
>>>
>>> For the curious, Richard Weait has posted an analysis at
>>> http://weait.com/osmf-board-election-results-2015. For formalities
>>> sake, I am noting that I am not certifying his analysis as accurate.
>>>
>>> The main result of his analysis is that there is a big gap between
>>> first-choice votes for the four candidates who got in and the others.
>>>
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