[Osmf-talk] [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

Fri Dec 11 02:41:19 UTC 2020

Dear all,

A few related observations:

- To date 171 individuals and 21 organizations have signed the Call to Take
Action
- A number of these individuals (note: myself included) are OSMF members
- As Allan pointed out, these individuals and organizations are from
multiple geographies, including those least represented (and most needed)
in OSM and the OSM ecosystem
- I have seen a message from at least one signatory that they have stopped
renewing their OSMF membership precisely due to the issues raised in the
Call, and another asking to unsubscribe

I am not a decision-maker on this, simply one of many members of OSMF. If I
were on the Board however, it would be quite clear that a very large number
of constituents have made their voices clear in the Call to Action. It is
time to stop asking our colleagues for more "evidence", and instead acting
with more curiosity and empathy in *listening* to those who have already
signed the Call to Action. And, what steps have you, or could you, take to
meet with one of the signatories, get to know them, and hear their story? I
hear Zoom (or, Big Blue Button) coffees and teas are popular nowadays.

In the Board's role of service to the community, it is also clear that
"business as usual" doesn't work anymore. It is painfully obvious simply by
looking at the numbers of signatories that we have harmed many of our
fellow community members. We have also potentially harmed the financial
strength of OSMF through the loss of membership revenue. We as an ecosystem
and global community need to make some changes. I applaud the Board's
decision to ask the LCCWG to work with the signatories build out the next
steps, including proposals on Code of Conduct and enforcement.

Best
Tyler

On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:11 PM Allan Mustard <
allan.mustard at osmfoundation.org> wrote:

> Thanks for the clarification.
>
> apm
> On 12/10/2020 8:06 PM, Greg Lauer wrote:
>
> Hi Allan
>
> Just to be clear, OSGeo Oceania, as a community has not endorsed the
> online document at this point in time. It is being discussed on the OSGeo
> Oceania mailing list (http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/oceania/) and the
> OSGeo Oceania Board is meeting this afternoon (Australia time) to decide an
> action.
>
> We will update the list once we the Board and community have agreed on the
> appropriate response.
>
> Best regards
>
> Greg Lauer
> OSGeo Oceania
>
> On 12/11/2020 10:49:33 AM, Allan Mustard <allan.mustard at osmfoundation.org>
> <allan.mustard at osmfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> @Andrew Hain,
>
>
> One factual correction:
>
>
> The so-called "divisive North American attitudes" have been endorsed in
> the online document by the following organizations:
>
>
> Geochicas
> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team Community Working Group
> GeoLadies Philippines
> MapBeks
> UP Resilience Institute Youth Mappers
> Crowd2Map
> SharedStreets
> Ushahidi
> Open Knowledge Nepal
> OSGeo Oceania
> Ministry of Mapping
> Unique Mappers Network, Nigeria
> Bangladesh Open Innovation Lab (BOIL) & Team BHOOT
> Kaart
> Mental Health A-WHERE-ness PH, Inc.
>
> The Philippines, Oceania, Nepal, Nigeria, and Bangladesh are not in North
> America.  Geochicas are found not only in North America, but in South
> America, Europe, and Africa.  Ushahidi is based in Africa, as is
> Crowd2Map.  In short, what you term "divisive North American attitudes"
> appear to have support from individuals and organizations outside North
> America.
>
>
> In weighing potential paths forward, the Board will consider factual
> information.  It is thus incumbent on all correspondents using this list to
> adhere to facts when expressing their views.
>
>
> apm
>
>
> On 12/10/2020 5:02 PM, Andrew Hain wrote:
>
> The big problem I have with this manifesto is that it brings divisive
> North American attitudes to a worldwide project. As a worldwide project,
> building a community of mappers from the whole world is our most important
> single diversity objective. That doesn�t mean we shouldn�t encourage other
> underrepresented groups such as women, but we should step away from this
> kind of international combativeness and dog whistling. It may even be
> counterproductive: some feminists in my country think �diversity� has
> become a code word for misogyny.
>
>
> --
>
> Andrew
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Celine Jacquin <celija at gmail.com> <celija at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 09 December 2020 19:06
> *To:* osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org <osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org>
> <osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org>; talk at openstreetmap.org
> <talk at openstreetmap.org> <talk at openstreetmap.org>
> *Subject:* [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive
> Behavior in the OSM Community
>
> Hello everybody
> I hope you are all well
>
> We, several groups, chapters, organizations and individuals, have reacted
> to the conversation in the osm-talk-list (
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085692.html)
> considering that it is an incident symptomatic of the problem we have faced
> for many years in the community, which is one of the greatest obstacles to
> diversity at all levels of OSM. Time to make a real change.
> That is why we have developed a beginning of statement on the desirable
> mechanisms to work solidly on the rules of coexistence and improve
> diversity.
>
> We bring it to your attention and invite anyone who feels represented to
> sign it. Translations are in preparation (any help is welcome):
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit?usp=sharing
>
>
> On behalf of the signatories
> Best regards
>
> C�line Jacquin
>
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