[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Obligatory vs., optional cycletracks)

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at gmail.com
Mon Dec 22 13:53:51 UTC 2014


Note, there is also bicycle=use_sidepath created for this purpose.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepath

2014-12-22 14:50 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com>:

> On 22/12/2014 11:00 PM, tagging-request at openstreetmap.org wrote:
>
>>
>> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 12:53:53 +0100
>> From: Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com>
>> To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"
>>         <tagging at openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Obligatory vs.
>>         optional        cycletracks)
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>> In Belgium the cyclist always have to use the cycleway, except
>>
>> - the path is in bad condition (glass, snow, holes,  ...)
>> - Children on small bikes
>> - groups of cyclists.
>> - for some special turns (see page 10 of
>> http://webshop.bivv.be/frontend/files/products/pdf/
>> 2fea42ac8b1b22e59ef8d5ea77aaf906/fietsersendewegcode.pdf
>> )
>>
>> regards
>>
>> m
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl>
>> wrote:
>>
>>    In NL I think it is similar to Germany. The definition of the sign is
>>> "verplicht fietspad" i.e. compulsory cycle track. When the cycle track
>>> runs
>>> adjacent to a road the intention is clear, but the sign is interestingly
>>> also used for cycle paths through the middle of the countryside with no
>>> adjacent road. One might interpret this as "you MUST follow this path,
>>> even
>>> if it goes in the wrong direction for you"....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Colin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
> I think the only need for 'obligatory cycleway' is to remove bicyclist
> from certain roads! e.g.
>
> I'm bicycling north to south.. there is an obligatory cycleway 1000 kms
> west of me ..
> Do I have to use it? No. Totally unreasonable.
> Or is it only obligatory for the adjacent road? Yes. In which case the
> road can be tagged bicycle=no ... if I don't want to use that 'obligatory
> cycleway' I could then find another road .. possibly further away, but I
> could avoid both that road and that cycleway. Thus the 'obligatory
> cycleway' applies to those bicyclists trying to use that one road.
>
> Same situation for the 'compulsory cycle track' if no other path exists
> then you have to use it, if there are other paths then mark the other paths
> as bicycle=no, as the situation demands.
>
> -----------------
>
> Marc  In some states of Australia I can bicycle on any footpath, in others
> I can if I'm under 12 years old or accompanying that child. I don't tag
> that, I'd not tag those complex exceptions in Belgium either.
>
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