[Tagging] Accepted or rejected?

Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist at gmail.com
Thu Mar 19 11:40:10 UTC 2015

2015-03-19 12:00 GMT+01:00 Kotya Karapetyan <kotya.lists at gmail.com>:

> I didn't mean to break the rules :) I thought I did count 8 +1's, plus the
> discussion shifted to other topics, so no strong opposition was expressed.

Yes, I didn't presume you had been acting in bad faith, just some
overeagerness, maybe ;-). Could be I've missed some positive votes when
counting (voting and discussion mixed up in a mailing list thread is not
very transparent). It just seemed a bit strange to me, that you rushed
immediately at changing the wiki, after such a short time for discussion
and just about reaching the minimum contribution.

> If Pieren and you really see more harm than improvement in what I've done,
> please feel free to roll back.

The numbers don't matter much to me, I won't revert and can generally agree
with raising the hurdle for "approval", but I think this thread could also
be seen as an opportunity to make a more fundamental change to the whole
way tag proposals work in OSM. In the end I see the proposal process as a
way to document the intended meaning of a tag. Whether that tags then gets
approved by the community can be seen from mapper support (active use),
which is a bit intertwined with editor support (presets) and rendering or
other data consumer support (if the tag is about something interesting to
someone and it is used, there will also be someone evaluating it sooner or

I liked Freds idea of naming the amount of supporters and their names
(might need some software support if the "voting" participation should
explode in the future) instead of a simple "approved", and liked also the
idea of having the proposal pages always linked to the documentation pages
and kept open with clear "pro" and "con" lists to be continuously amended.
I also like the current concise key/tag definition pages (well, sometimes
they are not concise, but then they fail somehow) to provide suitable
mapper support at a glance (so please no abolishing of these pages in
favour of just the proposal pages). These tag definition pages should be
linked to the proposal pages (already done currently, but not always).

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