[Tagging] fire hydrants

François Lacombe fl.infosreseaux at gmail.com
Tue Jun 20 09:16:43 UTC 2017


This proposal sounds good, and I've got questions or comments

fire_hydrant: namespace is too restrictive regarding
Can't we just use water_source instead? Many other devices using water can
take benefit from this.

What is the difference between in_service=no and disused=yes ?

:type subkeys aren't so great, and fire_hydrant:coupling:type can only be
fire_hydrant:coupling (or fire_hydrant:coupling_type to get more verbosity
as said above)
The same for fire_hydrant:type, can't we use fire_hydrant only to give the
delivery mechanism ?
The water supply part goes into water_source=*.

fire_hydrant:position also exists and it's definitely not a concept
specific to fire hydrants.
position=* or at least location=* can be used.

I would agree it's a lot about semantics, but that's important questions to
prevent errors or ease adoption of proposed keys IMHO.

All the best

*François Lacombe*

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2017-06-18 9:33 GMT+02:00 Robert Koch <robert.koch at loggia.at>:

> Okay, I got the difference between the pillar hydrants. What about
> dry-hydrants where you need to pump water out of a river/pond. There is not
> a shutoff in the center of the bonnet.
> Formerly this [1] would have been:
> fire_hydrant:type=pond
> fire_hydrant:pressure=suction
> WIth the new proposal this would be then:
> fire_hydrant:type=pipe
> fire_hydrant:pressure=suction
> Is this right? In German one would translate pipe as "Ansaugrohr".
> [1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/
> Dry_hydrant.jpg/150px-Dry_hydrant.jpg taken from [2]
> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dfire_hydrant#Types
> On 2017-06-17 21:51, Kevin Kenny wrote:
> On Jun 17, 2017 2:30 PM, "Robert Koch" <robert.koch at loggia.at> wrote:
> Moreover how useful is "pillar" if there is "dry_barrel" and
> "wet_barrel"? How would non-fire-fighters or non-local fire-fighters tag
> such pillar hydrants?
> "Pillar" is "I don't know which." There are a few hydrants near me that
> have a different appearance from our usual dry barrel design and carry
> signs warning that they must be pumped out after use.  I tagged them
> "pillar" because I honestly don't know what they are.
> Around the US, virtually universally, wet barrels have individual shutoff
> valves for each coupling while dry barrels have a single shutoff in the
> center of the bonnet. You have to get pretty far south for wet barrels to
> be practicable, since they'd burst in a hard winter.
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