[Tagging] consensus needed: officially a town but visibly distinct settlements?

Yves yvecai at mailbox.org
Sat Aug 18 18:59:01 UTC 2018

What is perceived locally as a hamlet or a suburb or a village can be organized at the local level. 
Who cares if the presence of a post office is the criterum to be a 'village' for a 200 people place if it's the only inhabited place 100km around? Who understand administrative levels in another country?
The place key allow a hierarchy of values with words from British English. I don't think those values covers accurately perception everywhere on the globe, that's why I think the local community can have a documented opinion on how to tag.

Le 18 août 2018 20:29:52 GMT+02:00, djakk djakk <djakk.djakk at gmail.com> a écrit :
>I agree with Michael, openstreetmap should reflect what the mapers see,
>what the politics and the administration see. Though it is also
>to map administrative things like borders.
>Le sam. 18 août 2018 à 17:33, Yves <yvecai at mailbox.org> a écrit :
>> Michael, you don't seem to take the right direction to construct a
>> fruitful discussion with Jose :)
>> For your first issue, did you reach the Lithuanian and Russian
>> Yves
>> Le 18 août 2018 16:37:28 GMT+02:00, Michael Tsang <miklcct at gmail.com>
>> écrit :
>>> On Saturday 18 August 2018 22:10:15 HKT José G Moya Y. wrote:
>>>>  Plwase take into notice that, in some countries, the difference
>>>>  suburb, hamlet, town or village is not only based on population
>but in
>>>>  political issues, such as self-government, also.
>>>>  When I see my hometown is defined as "aldea" (hamlet) in wikidata
>I always
>>>>  got angry, because, being statistically a hamlet (~200 people), it
>>>>  politically a *village* (it elects its own town major and has its
>own self
>>>>  government and budget).
>>>>  There are many such villages in Spain, (specially in the "Spanish
>>>>  the demographic desert between Soria and Teruel) and that is a
>point of
>>>>  conflict with many EU directives that request villages provide
>services a
>>>>  such small villages can't afford.
>>> But does it look like a village from an untrained eye? i.e. what
>services does
>>> it provide? If it really provides services that a village provide
>than it is
>>> really a village.
>>> If I am doing the mapping, if the settlement is small (less than 200
>>> AND does not provide services where a village should provide, I will
>mark it
>>> as a hamlet despite every official designation.
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