[Tagging] Public Transport Timetables Proposal RFC

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Sat Nov 3 05:19:20 UTC 2018


On 03/11/18 15:55, djakk djakk wrote:
> No : bus relations are broken because of the way part, not because of 
> the node part. And detailed timetables will be associated with the nodes.
>
> Breaking a bus relation by cutting a street way in half does not 
> implies that the osm timetable breaks too.
>
> I do not see why timetables are hard to maintain ? Most bus lines do 
> not change their schedules for years (even in big cities, Paris for 
> example).
Mine seem to change every 6 months.
> Because changing the schedule means buy a new bus and hire new drivers.

Not here..some old buses.
Occasionally the driver makes a wrong turn .. and asks the passengers 
where to go. Sometimes that is a new route, sometimes a new driver.

>
> Julien « djakk »
>
>
> Le sam. 3 nov. 2018 à 04:48, Joseph Eisenberg 
> <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com <mailto:joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>
>     It sounds like we agree: detailed timetables for every bus stop
>     are too much to maintain, but simple service hours and intervals
>     assigned to a route are reasonable.
>
>     This would be very useful for map rendering, because an intercity
>     bus that runs every 10 minutes is quite different than one that
>     run once a day!
>     On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 8:57 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick
>     <graemefitz1 at gmail.com <mailto:graemefitz1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>         I'm siding with the idea of linking to an external data-base,
>         as maintaining this in OSM is going to be a nightmare :-(
>
>         On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 at 08:45, Joseph Eisenberg
>         <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
>         <mailto:joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Sure! But how many GTFS feeds are there in the whole
>             world, compared to the number of towns with public transit?
>
>             I’m guessing that in Europe perhaps the majority of
>             transit operators publish this info, but it’s not yet
>             universal in they USA, and in Asia and Africa there are
>             10,000+ cities with no public transit info beyond what is
>             available in OSM
>
>
>         Somebody did mention Moovit earlier: https://moovit.com/
>
>         & here is Moovit Indonesia, which may make sense to you but
>         means absolutely nothing to me! :-)
>
>         https://moovitapp.com/index/in/Tranportasi_Umum-Indonesia
>
>             These cities rarely run strict timetables, but the
>             interval (ie headway) between buses and “open_hours) (ie
>             span of service) would be very useful and verifiable info.
>
>
>         In cases like this, when you need to know that the bus to the
>         big city should leave on Monday & Thursday mornings, is a bit
>         of a different situation to 100s of routes with multiple
>         journeys, & they would be doable.
>
>         Thanks
>
>         Graeme
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