[Tagging] Public Transport Timetables Proposal RFC

djakk djakk djakk.djakk at gmail.com
Sat Nov 3 05:57:21 UTC 2018


Yes I trust you ;)
But where the bus network does not revolutionate (that exists) every 6
months, timetables and bus stops can be in OSM ...

Julien « djakk »


Le sam. 3 nov. 2018 à 06:20, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> a écrit :

> On 03/11/18 15:55, djakk djakk wrote:
>
> No : bus relations are broken because of the way part, not because of the
> node part. And detailed timetables will be associated with the nodes.
>
> Breaking a bus relation by cutting a street way in half does not implies
> that the osm timetable breaks too.
>
> I do not see why timetables are hard to maintain ? Most bus lines do not
> change their schedules for years (even in big cities, Paris for example).
>
> Mine seem to change every 6 months.
>
> Because changing the schedule means buy a new bus and hire new drivers.
>
>
> Not here..some old buses.
> Occasionally the driver makes a wrong turn .. and asks the passengers
> where to go. Sometimes that is a new route, sometimes a new driver.
>
>
> Julien « djakk »
>
>
> Le sam. 3 nov. 2018 à 04:48, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>
> a écrit :
>
>> It sounds like we agree: detailed timetables for every bus stop are too
>> much to maintain, but simple service hours and intervals assigned to a
>> route are reasonable.
>>
>> This would be very useful for map rendering, because an intercity bus
>> that runs every 10 minutes is quite different than one that run once a day!
>> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 8:57 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm siding with the idea of linking to an external data-base, as
>>> maintaining this in OSM is going to be a nightmare :-(
>>>
>>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 at 08:45, Joseph Eisenberg <
>>> joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure! But how many GTFS feeds are there in the whole world, compared to
>>>> the number of towns with public transit?
>>>>
>>>> I’m guessing that in Europe perhaps the majority of transit operators
>>>> publish this info, but it’s not yet universal in they USA, and in Asia and
>>>> Africa there are 10,000+ cities with no public transit info beyond what is
>>>> available in OSM
>>>>
>>>
>>> Somebody did mention Moovit earlier: https://moovit.com/
>>>
>>> & here is Moovit Indonesia, which may make sense to you but means
>>> absolutely nothing to me! :-)
>>>
>>> https://moovitapp.com/index/in/Tranportasi_Umum-Indonesia
>>>
>>>
>>>> These cities rarely run strict timetables, but the interval (ie
>>>> headway) between buses and “open_hours) (ie span of service) would be very
>>>> useful and verifiable info.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In cases like this, when you need to know that the bus to the big city
>>> should leave on Monday & Thursday mornings, is a bit of a different
>>> situation to 100s of routes with multiple journeys, & they would be doable.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Graeme
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