[Tagging] issues with the list of deprecated features
osm at bavarianmallet.de
Wed Oct 17 11:31:47 UTC 2018
Am 15.10.2018 um 16:38 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
> Am Mo., 15. Okt. 2018 um 14:21 Uhr schrieb Tom Pfeifer
> <t.pfeifer at computer.org <mailto:t.pfeifer at computer.org>>:
> On 15.10.2018 10:57, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> > 3. amenity=creche and amenity=nursery
> > For both tags amenity=kindergarten is suggested as alternative
> tagging, which seems clearly wrong
> > (kindergarten is usually for ages 3-6 while these tags are for
> ages 0-3).
> I thought the consensus was here that it depends on the country.
> In Germany, I see mostly the "Kita"
> (Kindertagesstätte) structure which in the same institution enrols
> age 0-6 in different departments
> or groups, and a lot offer afterschool supervision (Hort).
> This is easily expressed with the min_age + max_age tag, and some
> folks use after_school=yes.
> For the German situation, KiTa and Hort should/could well be tagged
> with childcare, but "Krippe"? And if we decide to tag a Krippe
> (creche/nursery) the same as a Hort or KiTa, but with age tags, isn't
> that inconsistent with Kindergarten? From my point of view, Hort and
> KiTa are both childcare places which extend beyond the times of
> kindergarten and school (and are after those, typically), while a
> Krippe is for babies up to 3 years and is more like a Kindergarten,
> apart from the age. It would really be much more logical and easier to
> introduce / accept nurseries (there's a reason there is a specific
> term for this in language, no?), then throw most but not all of
> "child-related-stuff" in the same cauldron where you will have to dig
> for age group and other specfic tags in order to make sense of it.
There is always a reason having a specific term for different parts of
childcare - it is simply easier to talk about a Krippe(nursery),
Kindergarten, Hort(after school club) instead of a childcare with
age_group 0-3, 4-6, 7-14.
And it is quite logical to take these terms as tags - in the first
But is it really easier to end up with three different amenities - and
so with different POIs - for a childcare which enrols all age groups?
Nevertheless the min or max age sometimes differs at the same sort of
institution - so you may look e. g. after a hort but still have to check
for the valid age anyway.
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