[Tagging] Removing an ATM

Paul Allen pla16021 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 9 14:27:52 UTC 2019

On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 15:10, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>

> sent from a phone
> > On 9. Jul 2019, at 15:57, Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Where an object is no longer physically present, such as a telephone
> booth that has
> > been removed, then removed:amenity=telephone.
> while disused and abandoned features make sense and can be observed, may
> help for orientation or might be reactivated,

Not really.  They don't get rendered (on standard carto).  So they don't
help anyone orient
themselves.  The underlying physical object does, but not its prior usage
(unless the old
signage is still there), but that still doesn't help because it's not

> the same is not true for “removed”. There may be exceptional situations
> where it could still make sense (like you mention, e.g. to prevent people
> from recreating them from outdated aerial imagery), but I would not expect
> an atm or a telephone booth to be worth of mapping them after they have
> been removed.

As with disused: and abandoned:, the only real purpose is to prevent
mappers re-instating the
object based upon out-of-date information.

As it happens, I recently removed two phone boxes with
removed:amenity=telephone.  Because
they were in front of a building of which many different images exist on
the net.  Such as this
one https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Guildhall,_Cardigan.jpg  It's
in a tourist town
and it's a building a lot of people take pictures of (partly because of the
Russian cannon).
Many of those pictures include those two phone booths which are no longer
there.  Definitely
worth mapping with the removed prefix, because any mapper coming across one
of those
many photographs is likely to add the omitted phone booths.

It's far less likely that somebody would reinstate a removed ATM because
there are unlikely to
be many photographs of it floating around the net  But it does no harm to
turn amenity=atm
into removed:amenity=atm, so I wouldn't object to anybody doing so.

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