[Tagging] Have our tagging voting rules changed recently?

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Tue Aug 4 08:14:25 UTC 2020

To be more clear:
in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Ground&diff=2018441&oldid=2018440

I removed 
"Any opposition vote without reason or suggestion will not be counted in the voting process."as it is an undiscussed modification of a proposal voting and a refusal to follow instructions
on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process#Voting
Opposition votes without reason or suggestion are still valid and will be counted.

Though asking such voters for feedback/explanation is OK and it is
preferable to explain your vote.

Aug 4, 2020, 10:10 by tagging at openstreetmap.org:

> I partially reverted 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Ground&diff=prev&oldid=2014966
> and followed
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process#Voting
> Note that 
> "People should not just vote "oppose", they should give a reason for their proposal, and/or (preferably) suggestions."
> is suggested at > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process#Voting
> and that it is not a new addition, but still pure "no"
> vote are valid ones.
> Aug 4, 2020, 09:57 by frederik at remote.org:
>> Hi,
>> looking at the "bare_soil" proposal I was surprised to read:
>> "Any opposition vote without reason or suggestion will not be counted in
>> the voting process."
>> Is that something that we have added by consensus?
>> It sounds like a somewhat sneaky measure to ignore opposition votes, or
>> discourage those who cannot properly express their opposition in English
>> from voting in the first place. It also raises the question of what
>> requirements there are for a "reason or suggestion". If I vote no with a
>> reason "it stinks", will there then be someone who says "ah, this is not
>> a valid reason" and strips me of my vote? Who will that person be?
>> Has this been used in other votes in the past? I'm tempted to say it
>> would invalidate any vote but maybe it *is* indeed based on consensus
>> and I missed that.
>> Bye
>> Frederik
>> -- 
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