[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

European Water Project europeanwaterproject at gmail.com
Wed Feb 26 11:13:29 UTC 2020 

Hello,

Since no one has manifested an objection (still not too late), I am going
to amend the final voted tag pair to :

drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;

Can someone please guide me on the below.  I appreciate your advice.  I
would like to complete all tasks associated with this tag implementation.

1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was
voted ?... The page name corresponds to the one of the first interactions.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water

2. How do I create the permanent feature page ? (should I create a second
one for "drinking_water:refill:network" or include it on the primary page ?)

3.  I will need guidance on the next three steps as well, but this can come
after completion of 1 + 2.
- Add a link back to the proposal by using the *statuslink* parameter of
the feature template.
- Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using
Template:Approved
feature link
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link>.
- Archive the proposal using Template:Archived proposal
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal>.

Best regards,

Stuart


On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 15:29, European Water Project <
europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> As per yesterday's note, I would like to make the following tweek to the
> tag pair as per the suggestion from Kovposch for the final write-up.
>
> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
>
>
> instead of :
>
> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
> drinking_water:refill_scheme=scheme-name1;scheme-name2;scheme-name3;
>
> Does anyone believe another round of voting is necessary for this small
> change ?  I don't mind.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:33, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Again,
>>
>> In addition to the previous email regarding voting outcome, I think it is
>> worth discussing the suggestion of  Kovposch to make refill a namespace and
>> use the word network.
>>
>> This would change the second tag of the tag pair to
>> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have an opinion on this? I personally prefer this namespace
>> convention because of I find it more generic and I find the word "network"
>> clearer than "scheme".
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:27, European Water Project <
>> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> The proposal for tagging bars, restaurants, cafés, kiosks, which refill
>>> water bottles for free as part of a refill scheme or as an independent
>>> passes with 13 positive votes and three abstentions.  Please note, that to
>>> be tagged drinking_water:refill = yes, it is imperative that a sign is
>>> evident so that the tag is verifiable.
>>>
>>> The tag that has been voted positively takes into account the clear
>>> preference for delimiting individual scheme names with semicolons - which
>>> is common with other tags.
>>>
>>>
>>>    - drinking_water:refill
>>>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>>    =yes
>>>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill%3Dyes&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>>    /drinking_water:refill
>>>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>>    =no
>>>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill%3Dno&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>>    - drinking_water:refill_scheme
>>>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill_scheme&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>>    =scheme-name
>>>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill_scheme%3Dscheme-name&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>>    1; scheme-name
>>>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill_scheme%3Dscheme-name&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>>    2;scheme-name3;
>>>
>>>
>>> Can someone please guide me on next steps ?
>>>
>>>
>>>    - Create the permanent feature description page:
>>>
>>>
>>>    - A new page for the feature should be created and the relevant map features
>>>    template
>>>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Features_template> (depending
>>>    on whether it is a key, a value, or a relation) should be applied. Follow
>>>    the standard set by the Key:highway
>>>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway> key and its values.
>>>    - Add a link back to the proposal by using the *statuslink* parameter
>>>    of the feature template.
>>>    - Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page
>>>    using Template:Approved feature link
>>>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link>.
>>>    - Archive the proposal using Template:Archived proposal
>>>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal>.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 14:43, European Water Project <
>>> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Joseph,
>>>>
>>>> Understood.
>>>>
>>>> I will start a discussion on the proposal amendment/tweek after the
>>>> vote finishes tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Stuart
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 13:23, Joseph Eisenberg <
>>>> joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > For 2) What is the best way to proceed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Make another proposal to discuss that particular tag.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Joseph Eisenberg
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/17/20, European Water Project <europeanwaterproject at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Tomorrow is the last day of voting.  The proposal has positive
>>>>> support ..
>>>>> > 10 + and 2 Abs
>>>>> >
>>>>> > There are two comments which are worth noting :
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 1 . It seems there is a strong preference for semicolon delimited
>>>>> scheme
>>>>> > names as a preferred alternative to refill_scheme = multiple. Untess
>>>>> there
>>>>> > are voiced objections, I will amend the proposal after the final
>>>>> vote to
>>>>> > take this into consideration.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2. Kovposch
>>>>> > <
>>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User:Kovposch&action=edit&redlink=1
>>>>> >
>>>>> > suggested
>>>>> > making refill a namespace and changing refill_scheme to
>>>>> refill:network.
>>>>> > Intutitvely, this suggestion seems to be a good one, because of its
>>>>> more
>>>>> > generic nature. I also prefer the word "network" to "scheme" ...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > For 2) What is the best way to proceed ? It wouldn't be right to just
>>>>> > change the tag to something people haven't actually voted on.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best regards,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Stuart
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:47, European Water Project <
>>>>> > europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Hi Martin,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> If it is clear that there is drinking water available for refill for
>>>>> >> everyone there is no need to be part of a scheme.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Best regards,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Stuart
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:40, Martin Koppenhoefer
>>>>> >> <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 16:58 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <
>>>>> >>> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com>:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> I think they do need a sign or it is impossible to objectively map
>>>>> >>>> whether a bar will refill a bottle of water for free for anyone
>>>>> (ie
>>>>> >>>> paying
>>>>> >>>> or non-paying customer).
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I think if they provide a water tap in the customer area with a
>>>>> >>> "drinking
>>>>> >>> water" sign, it is perfectly ok and does not need more explanation.
>>>>> >>> Like in the linked photo above:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Cheers
>>>>> >>> Martin
>>>>> >>>
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