[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

Sun Mar 1 19:44:51 UTC 2020

Hello

For step 3.
Replace the entire content/source from the «Proposed features/Free Water» with this snippet:
«
{{Approved feature link|link=Key:drinking_water:refill|name=Free Water}}
{{Archived proposal|archive_id=1962961}}
»
The archive_id comes from the «View history» page by clicking the last / newest entry and coping the value from the oldid parameter in the url.

Best regards,

Markus

Von: European Water Project<mailto:europeanwaterproject at gmail.com>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 12:15
An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools<mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

Hello,

Since no one has manifested an objection (still not too late), I am going to amend the final voted tag pair to :

drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;

Can someone please guide me on the below.  I appreciate your advice.  I would like to complete all tasks associated with this tag implementation.

1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was voted ?... The page name corresponds to the one of the first interactions.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water

2. How do I create the permanent feature page ? (should I create a second one for "drinking_water:refill:network" or include it on the primary page ?)

3.  I will need guidance on the next three steps as well, but this can come after completion of 1 + 2.
*  Add a link back to the proposal by using the statuslink parameter of the feature template.
*  Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using Template:Approved feature link<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link>.
*  Archive the proposal using Template:Archived proposal<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal>.

Best regards,

Stuart

On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 15:29, European Water Project <europeanwaterproject at gmail.com<mailto:europeanwaterproject at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,

As per yesterday's note, I would like to make the following tweek to the tag pair as per the suggestion from Kovposch for the final write-up.

drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;

instead of :

drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
drinking_water:refill_scheme=scheme-name1;scheme-name2;scheme-name3;

Does anyone believe another round of voting is necessary for this small change ?  I don't mind.

Best regards,

Stuart

On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:33, European Water Project <europeanwaterproject at gmail.com<mailto:europeanwaterproject at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Again,

In addition to the previous email regarding voting outcome, I think it is worth discussing the suggestion of  Kovposch to make refill a namespace and use the word network.

This would change the second tag of the tag pair to
drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;

Does anyone have an opinion on this? I personally prefer this namespace convention because of I find it more generic and I find the word "network" clearer than "scheme".

Best regards,

Stuart

On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:27, European Water Project <europeanwaterproject at gmail.com<mailto:europeanwaterproject at gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear All,

The proposal for tagging bars, restaurants, cafés, kiosks, which refill water bottles for free as part of a refill scheme or as an independent passes with 13 positive votes and three abstentions.  Please note, that to be tagged drinking_water:refill = yes, it is imperative that a sign is evident so that the tag is verifiable.

The tag that has been voted positively takes into account the clear preference for delimiting individual scheme names with semicolons - which is common with other tags.

·         drinking_water:refill<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill&action=edit&redlink=1>=yes<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill%3Dyes&action=edit&redlink=1>/drinking_water:refill<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill&action=edit&redlink=1>=no<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill%3Dno&action=edit&redlink=1>
·         drinking_water:refill_scheme<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill_scheme&action=edit&redlink=1>=scheme-name<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill_scheme%3Dscheme-name&action=edit&redlink=1>1; scheme-name<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill_scheme%3Dscheme-name&action=edit&redlink=1>2;scheme-name3;

Can someone please guide me on next steps ?

·         Create the permanent feature description page:
·         A new page for the feature should be created and the relevant map features template<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Features_template> (depending on whether it is a key, a value, or a relation) should be applied. Follow the standard set by the Key:highway<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway> key and its values.
·         Add a link back to the proposal by using the statuslink parameter of the feature template.
·         Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using Template:Approved feature link<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link>.
·         Archive the proposal using Template:Archived proposal<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal>.

Best regards,

Stuart

On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 14:43, European Water Project <europeanwaterproject at gmail.com<mailto:europeanwaterproject at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Joseph,

Understood.

I will start a discussion on the proposal amendment/tweek after the vote finishes tomorrow.

Best regards,

Stuart

On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 13:23, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com<mailto:joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>> wrote:
> For 2) What is the best way to proceed?

Make another proposal to discuss that particular tag.

- Joseph Eisenberg

On 2/17/20, European Water Project <europeanwaterproject at gmail.com<mailto:europeanwaterproject at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Tomorrow is the last day of voting.  The proposal has positive support ..
> 10 + and 2 Abs
>
> There are two comments which are worth noting :
>
> 1 . It seems there is a strong preference for semicolon delimited scheme
> names as a preferred alternative to refill_scheme = multiple. Untess there
> are voiced objections, I will amend the proposal after the final vote to
> take this into consideration.
>
> 2. Kovposch
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User:Kovposch&action=edit&redlink=1>
> suggested
> making refill a namespace and changing refill_scheme to refill:network.
> Intutitvely, this suggestion seems to be a good one, because of its more
> generic nature. I also prefer the word "network" to "scheme" ...
>
> For 2) What is the best way to proceed ? It wouldn't be right to just
> change the tag to something people haven't actually voted on.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:47, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com<mailto:europeanwaterproject at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> If it is clear that there is drinking water available for refill for
>> everyone there is no need to be part of a scheme.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:40, Martin Koppenhoefer
>> <dieterdreist at gmail.com<mailto:dieterdreist at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 16:58 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <
>>> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com<mailto:europeanwaterproject at gmail.com>>:
>>>
>>>> I think they do need a sign or it is impossible to objectively map
>>>> whether a bar will refill a bottle of water for free for anyone (ie
>>>> paying
>>>> or non-paying customer).
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think if they provide a water tap in the customer area with a
>>> "drinking
>>> water" sign, it is perfectly ok and does not need more explanation.
>>> Like in the linked photo above:
>>> https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Martin
>>>
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