[Tagging] Should pastures be tagged landuse=meadow or landuse=farmland?

[Peter Elderson]

In Nederland, most people can't tell what a grassy area is used for, and
the use of the land changes all the time. It's much easier to tell if an
area belongs to a farm, and anyone can see that it's covered with mainly
grass - at that moment.

The result: a patchwork of landuse areas, of which landuse=farmland is
reliably telling you that the land is used for farming (crop or livestock
or just resting for later use as either, or awaiting expropriation for
something else e.g. park, "new nature" or building area, forest or another
giant motorway crossing -you can never have enough of those, right?-, or a
new water storage area, which is the destination for most of the country
anyway, because the sea rises, the rivers bring more water and the rain
becomes heavier year by year).



Op do 16 dec. 2021 om 05:25 schreef Joseph Eisenberg <
joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>

> Meadows (areas of mostly grass and similar herbaceous plants, cut for hay)
> and pastures ( areas of grass and herbs, used for grazing by animals) are
> both tagged as landuse=meadow everywhere that I have mapped.
>
> It is rare to use landuse=farmland for either.
>
> - Joseph
>
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 7:34 PM Zeke Farwell <ezekielf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A couple of weeks ago a new wiki editor
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/DerBauer>
>> modified several pages in a way that changes the meaning of landuse=meadow
>> and landuse=farmland.
>>
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dmeadow>
>> Tag:landuse meadow
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dmeadow>  (diff
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Alanduse%3Dmeadow&type=revision&diff=2225909&oldid=2224216>
>> )
>> Tag:landuse farmland
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmland>  (diff
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Alanduse%3Dfarmland&type=revision&diff=2225152&oldid=2224151>
>> )
>> Tag:landuse farmyard
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmyard>  (diff
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Alanduse%3Dfarmyard&type=revision&diff=2225157&oldid=1935881>
>> )
>> Template:Map_Features:landuse
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Map_Features:landuse>  (
>> diff
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AMap_Features%3Alanduse&type=revision&diff=2225907&oldid=2210904>
>> )
>>
>> Previously these pages suggested that landuse=meadow is used for pastures
>> and hay fields, landuse=farmland is used for tilled cropland, and that some
>> mappers use landuse=farmland for all three.  Some ambiguity there, but that
>> was the gist of it.  After the recent changes these pages now state that
>> landuse=farmland should be used for tilled cropland and pastures, while
>> landuse=meadow should only be used for grassy areas which are not regularly
>> grazed.
>>
>> Is this change in meaning appropriate or not?
>>
>>
>> The description for landuse=meadow was changed from this:
>>
>>> An area of meadow or pasture: land primarily vegetated by grass and
>>> other non-woody plants, mainly used for hay or grazing
>>>
>> to this:
>>
>>> A meadow - land primarily vegetated by grass and non-woody plants, but
>>> which is *not* regularly grazed.
>>>
>>
>> The description for landuse=farmland was changed from this:
>>
>>> Area of farmland used mainly for tillage (annual crops)
>>>
>> to this:
>>
>>> Area of land operated by a farm whether that is pastoral (livestock) or
>>> arable (tillage). To be used in conjunction with crop=* to define the crop
>>> (grass, wheat etc) grown on that land. Separate to tag landuse=farmyard
>>
>>
>> Another section of the landuse=farmland page was change from this:
>>
>>> This tag is sometimes used for tagging every agricultural area (except
>>> farmyards). However we also have separate tags for: meadows and pastures
>>> landuse=meadow, fruit orchards landuse=orchard, and vineyards
>>> landuse=vineyard, so many mappers prefer to use landuse=farmland for
>>> cropland only
>>
>> to this:
>>
>>> This tag is to be used for tagging every agricultural area (except
>>> farmyards). There are also separate tags for: fruit orchards
>>> landuse=orchard, and vineyards landuse=vineyard.
>>> Meadows have an often confusing separate tag landuse=meadow attributed
>>> to them. An agricultural meadow is a separate distinction under the
>>> farmland parent category where the ground cover is grass but is not
>>> regularly grazed by livestock.
>>
>>
>>
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