[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse bush

Vincent van Duijnhoven vincenttemp at vanduijnhoven.xyz
Thu Feb 4 15:51:08 UTC 2021


Thanks for the explanation. I didn't think of the verge but that is for another proposal. Just had a look and in most cases (atleast in the rural parts) it is part of the landuse so that is fine.


4 feb. 2021 16:06 van allroadsworld at gmail.com:

> For the road: road image.
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> A part of the land is “the road”,  what is that?
> That is the carriageway, but also the verge grass (with some trees in it) and your (2) traffic_island, footways, paths, cycleways, mostly laying between two ditches (rural)
> The whole area is landuse=highway. But just like landuse=railway, also a area mostly between two ditches (in the rural part), very similar and same methodology.
> The use, the verge has a function, when using the road, escape, safety, traffic_sign placement, parking, drainage, etc
> We have area:highway=unclassified etc.
> The whole, landuse=highway you can divide it into parts area:higway, so there is area:highway=traffic_island > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/area%3Ahighway=traffic_island
> You could also draw in area:highway=verge
> Both can have landcover=grass.
> For the road we do not need landscaping, we have landcover.
> Therefor we do not need a new methodology.
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> Although, the wiki says some about street areas: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:area:highway#Classification>  which you can turn around in a tag combination for.........
> area:highway=verge is a good extension.
> Also area:highway=shoulder. Having it’s own tagvalue. This part of the area must also be covered with a tag.
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> Describe, what it really is, a part of the road.
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> From:>  > Vincent van Duijnhoven via Tagging <>
> Sent:>  Thursday, February 4, 2021 1:39 PM
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> From all discussion, I get the feeling that both a new landuse or natural value are not going to succeed because it is controversial to add a new value. Some will, I think correct, oppose because it would fragment the vegetation tagging even further
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> I had a discussion with ZeLonewolf on Discord. Would there be support for a tag like landscaping=*? Possible values could be shrubbery | grass | trees/forest | flowerbed etc. For example on the following image: > https://i.imgur.com/w4gAW6D.png>  1 would be tagged as natural=wood ( leave the discussion about how to tag the forest for now), 2 as landscaping=grass, and 3 as natural=tree. If 2 would have been low shrubbery for decoration, landscaping=shrubbery would be sufficient.
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> This tagging scheme would still honor for example natural=scrub from scrublands and natural=shrub from individual shrubs. Also, the landuse tag would be left untouched and still available to only tag real landuse (like residential and industrial). 
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> Additionally, landscaping=* would allow to also properly tag the content of a leisure=garden and leisure=park in more detail. 
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> Is this a workable solution?
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> Kind regards,
> Vincent
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