[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shrubbery

[Joseph Eisenberg]

I don't understand why we should create a new tag under natural=* for this
type of land. We already have natural=scrub, which some people use for
managed areas of shrubs.

If that is not acceptable, then the best option is to use landuse=* or
leisure=*, which are the two keys currently used for areas of artificially
planted or highly managed vegetation, e.g.:

garden, park, lawn (grass), flowerbed, meadow, allotments, plant_nursery,
etc.

I don't see a benefit to having two different values under the same key,
one of which means 'natural or semi-natural shrubland' and the other which
means 'managed shrubs'. This will just cause confusion.

Hence my prior suggestion of landuse=shrubs, though I would consider
leisure=shrubs this common use of the key "landuse=*" is anathema.

- Joseph EiIsenberg

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 11:36 PM Vincent van Duijnhoven <
vvanduijnhoven at outlook.com> wrote:

> It was also brought to my attention yesterday that all values in the
> natural key are singular. Shrubs is plural. For consistency, this value
> should also be singular. That leaves two options
> 1) Repurpose natural=shrub to also be applied on areas rather than only
> nodes. The downside of this is that it only differs 1 letter from
> natural=scrub which might cause confusion
> 2) Use natural=shrubbery which according to the definition seems to cover
> everything I was trying to get covered with the proposal.
>
> In the coming days, I will also work on the definition in the proposal
> based on all the feedback provided.
>
> Kind regards,
> Vincent
> ------------------------------
> *Van:* Brian M. Sperlongano <zelonewolf at gmail.com>
> *Verzonden:* woensdag 24 februari 2021 23:35
> *Aan:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <
> tagging at openstreetmap.org>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shrubbery
>
> I would vote yes for either, but the issue with shrubs vs shrubbery, is
> that shrubs seems to exclude elements of landscaping that are not strictly
> a shrub, but are part of an overall landscaped area, such as a mulch bed or
> non-shrub plants.
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 5:25 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 at 18:34, Vincent van Duijnhoven <
> vvanduijnhoven at outlook.com> wrote:
>
> Besides Bert, are the more people who prefer natural=shrubs over
> natural=shrubbery?
>
>
> Yep, me :-)
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
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