[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Cryptocurrencies with payment tag

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While I fully understand and support actions to keep votings "clean" I'd
like to point out that there seems to be an apparent consensus that
these votings are absolutely not binding and nothing but mere
"recommendations" of a bunch of OSM contributors that happen to be more
enthusiastic and active than millions of others. I suspect this is not
general knowledge, hence the interest in pushing a tagging that could be
used anyway no matter the outcome... infamous "any tag you like" as you
know... 

This having said, I am in favour of considering the proposal votings
authorative and should we ever manage to get to this point we absolutely
need to have mechanisms in place that ensure clean votings, of course. 

@zelonewolf at gmail.com 

You state: "This vote does not represent a confirmation/documentation of
community consensus as intended by the proposal process" 

While this might be a clear example of subverting the intent to achieve
some kind of consesus I have a broader question: How do we actually
establish consesus in the OSM community - in a VERIFIABLE way? As I
said, it seems proposal votings do not, so how? Maybe this discussion
deserves its own thread though... 

Cheers, Marcos 

Am 19.10.2021 08:15, schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging:

> Yeah, while this proposal will likely fail - such invading should be treated as 
> invalidating proposal vote. 
> 
> While new contributors to OSM are welcome, in this case we are interested in 
> opinions of OSM contributors. 
> 
> Not in things like https://archive.md/a8Qia 
> 
> It is not a place for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boaty_McBoatface 
> or repeat of something like 
> https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/52524/15-polls-hijacked-internet 
> 
> Note that we have precedence for invalidating proposal votes without 
> having an explicit rule for that, see 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/motorcycle_friendly/tag_description 
> 
> <insert rant here about cryptocurrency speculators being annoying in one more way> 
> 
> Oct 19, 2021, 04:44 by zelonewolf at gmail.com: 
> This vote is being actively brigaded by crypto enthusiasts directing other crypto enthusiasts with no connection to OSM to create OSM wiki accounts in order to vote for this proposal.  Even more concerningly, the talk discussion indicates that proponents of a specific, obscure crypto-currency are being directed to this wiki vote as a group.  While this vote is currently failing, I believe the vote is invalid and should be shut down.  This vote does not represent a confirmation/documentation of community consensus as intended by the proposal process.  As such, we should not allow it to proceed further. 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 9:04 AM András Fuchs <andras.fuchs at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> Voting has started for Cryptocurrencies with payment tag. 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Cryptocurrencies_with_payment_tag [1] 
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