[Talk-GB] elsan_points

SK53 sk53.osm at gmail.com
Wed Apr 22 19:38:55 UTC 2015

I too have problems with the name of this proposed tag, as follows:

1) It's not recognisably British English. This has been the default for tag
names since the inception of the project, mainly to avoid natural
complications when en-us and en-gb differ. As a native Brit I wouldn't have
a clue what this tag was supposed to mean on its own.
2) As Lester says, sanitary has the wrong connotations
3) Dump is colloquial en-gb for defecation.
4) Stations are places I catch trains.

Despite objections to a trade name, the current tag does reflect what these
are called by waterway users in the UK. Elsan has long entered standard
english as a synonym for chemical toilet. Personally I would have tried to
choose something a little more generic at the outset to help mappers
outwith the British Isles, but the current suggestion really doesnt help

Ideally tags suggest what they refer to ('duck tagging') and do not require
navigating the wiki to find elaborate circumlocutions for something which
is really straightforward.


On 22 April 2015 at 20:25, Lester Caine <lester at lsces.co.uk> wrote:

> On 22/04/15 19:07, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
> > Others objected to the use of a trade name.
> > Thus *sanitary_dump_station* as an attempt at a generic term with a good
> > chance of understanding when translated into multiple languages, and a
> > good match to the customary terms used locally. The scheme's wiki page
> > is now in French, German, English and Russian.
> 'dump' just sounds wrong ... disposal would be better, but
> effluent_disposal_point is I think a little more generic. sanitary is
> more generally related to female related disposal.
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