[Talk-GB] Gate Pillars (Old Houses & Estates)

[Tony Shield]

Hi

I'm more inclined (no pun)Â  to gate_pier as that's the HE language and a 
quick google query shows many companies offering them - that leads me to 
think it is in widespread use and is part of the language of gates. The 
google search for gate_post shows less substantial posts. This leads me 
to identify a clear difference between gate_pier and gate_post, the 
former being more substantial in form and function.

Like gate_finials.

Regards

Tony

On 21/07/2021 10:24, SK53 wrote:
> A bit after the fact, unfortunately.
>
> I have been thinking a bit about the alternative options in these 
> cases and I suspect gate pier may be a little obscure compared with 
> gate post, cf Torpfosten (https://dict.leo.org/german-english/gatepost 
> <https://dict.leo.org/german-english/gatepost>) whereas a suitable 
> translation for pier - Stuetze - comes way down the set of.meanings.
>
> More positively I think gate_finial can be added as a secondary tag. 
> Most historic gate piers will have finials, ranging from simple 
> spheres to more elaborate ones including pineapples.
>
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 09:02 Paul Berry, <pmberry2007 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:pmberry2007 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     Thanks for the guidance. I've mapped this historic pair now I know
>     how to tag them:
>
>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8937962759
>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8937962759>
>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8937962760
>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8937962760>
>
>     Regards,
>     /Paul/
>
>     On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 16:59, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB
>     <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
>
>         Taginfo shows:
>         man_made=gate_post (23)
>         man_made=gate_pillar (17)
>         man_made=gatepost (11)
>         man_made=gate_pier (6)
>         historic=gate_pier (9)
>         historic=gatepole (2)
>         historic=gate_post (1)
>
>         No obvious winner, and whatever you choose should get a decent
>         boost. You can of course use both man_made= and historic=.
>         Given that Historic England describes them as gate piers,
>         perhaps man_made=gate_pier + historic=gate_pier?
>
>         You'll also want to tag the listing status, see
>         https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:heritage#England
>         <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:heritage#England>
>
>         On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 15:40, Tony Shield <tonyosm9 at gmail.com
>         <mailto:tonyosm9 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             I can't find on wiki anything which describes gate pillars.
>
>             Often found at the entrance to a substantial estate, and
>             often about 2
>             metres in height with a base of say 1 metre squared, often
>             with special
>             carving, inscriptions and shapes. For many of them the
>             previously hung
>             gates have been removed.
>
>             Historic England have listed some of them in my locality -
>
>             https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1072466
>             <https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1072466>
>             -
>             four of them with no gates attached.
>
>             https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1204419
>             <https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1204419>
>             - two
>             of them with modern gates attached so I have listed as
>             barrier=gate,
>             however this may be inadequate.
>
>
>         The barrier= tag should go on the (high)way that runs between
>         them, not on the gate pillars themselves, I would think. You
>         could put removed:barrier=gate at sites where the gate has
>         been removed.
>
>             As these are listed they fall within the quarterly project
>             of Tourism.
>
>             Any advice as to how to tag them gratefully accepted.
>
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