[Talk-ht] Onboarding new mappers

[ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen]

Hi Pierre

 

OSM is chaotic by nature. There are no professors

telling you what’s best. There are conventions, most often

because these are the best way to do things.

Don’t feel stopped to choose your way of communicating

with the rest of us, IRC, talk, or via the WIKI.

Play with it, see what works for you.

Normally wiki pages will not erase as easy like that.

There is always the show <preview button> so as

you can see what happens, and if you are not happy

do not confirm. Ask others to help you a bit.

Learn by copying, both in the wiki and in OSM itself.

If you don’t understand , ask, or ignore. If you

don’t understand something it’s because someone

else communicated carelessly. In your

case of  “need link” , do not hesitate to edit the wiki 

page and put “what link ?”besides.

It won’t take long until another user corrects, adds or improves.

And really, invest some time in JOSM, it pays off.

 

Gert

 

Van: talk-ht-bounces at openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-ht-bounces at openstreetmap.org] Namens infosbelas-gps at yahoo.fr
Verzonden: vrijdag 12 februari 2010 19:00
Aan: talk-ht at openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [Talk-ht] Onboarding new mappers

 

I am new to Openstreetmap. I came three weeks ago to help for Haiti. I didn't pas thru Edit camps and learned by myself. I've edited almost everyday since : refugee camps, hospital tags, rivers.

 

Even if I have a lot of experience with computers, I find that theres a steep learning slope with learning how to edit and communicate with other users.  And I don't have answers to all my interrogations.

 

I can modify tags or trace a way. Im am not sure yet if y connect to ways of a same river properly. 

 

I can communicate, but not sure yet of doing everything things properly. I have edited some wiki pages, but not sure how to identify myself. The member guggis told me to add four ~~~~~ and test with the sandbox page. I edited the sandbox page and since then only my name appears on that page. These type of things don't give you to much confidence that you can communicate in the wiki without erasing everything.

 

Also, from one wiki page project to the other, ways of communicating are different. When we work on a project (by exemple rivers), should we indicate it in the wiki page of the project or instead send a mail to the talk-ht?

 

On the page WikiProject Haiti/Tasks and Ideas/RiverLabeling, it is often said  need link to the OSM object. What this means?  And from the successive ways composing a river, those a hierarchy object have to be created. If so, How? 

 

I still prefer Potlach to JOSM.  I can modifiy tags in both. But, In Potlach, I find ways more easier and navigate more easily. But I progress.

 

And as it as been suggested by many from the Haiti experience, some kind of general tutorial for new collaborators covering the different aspects of editing and communicating would be welcome.

 

Pierre Béland 

 

 

 

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