[Talk-ma] [OKFILTER] Re: mapping caïdats and cercles
Ali
tamazgha2003 at hotmail.com
Sam 28 Mar 18:07:37 UTC 2015
hi,
If you considering to move to Morocco you are always welcome, I was considering to go back , but I’m still stuck here in Belguim for years
I started a few days ago to adjust the new region ,they are reduces from 16 to 12,the mapping is finished and i hope they are ok.
b.t.w: the only resource or reference for caidats and cercles (there are no others on my opinion)that i have for mapping are this:
http://www.pncl.gov.ma/fr/EspaceJuridique/DocLib/D%C3%A9cret%20fixant%20la%20liste%20des%20cercles,des%20ca%C3%AEdats%20et%20des%20communes%20urbaines%20et%20rurales.pdf
and of cource the wikipedia pages in french :
example:http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_de_Taourirt under Découpage territorial
best regards
From: John Freed
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:39 PM
To: Ali
Cc: Frédéric Rodrigo ; talk-ma at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OKFILTER] Re: [Talk-ma] mapping caïdats and cercles
Thank you, Ali, that is really excellent! Because I am considering moving to Morocco, I will keep a copy. :)
So I think then that we agree.
Admin_level=5 is for prefectures and provinces (collectively, wilaya) [THIS IS A CHANGE]
Admin_level=6 is for cercles [THIS IS NEW]
Admin_level=7 is for caidat, districts and pashalik(arrondissements) [THIS IS THE SAME]
Admin_level=8 is for municipalities and rural communes [THIS IS THE SAME]
I will modify the wiki and we can work on changing Admin_level=6 to Admin_level=5.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Ali <ali.zaroili at gmail.com> wrote:
hi,
A better axplanation for Moroccan_administrative_division
http://www.aecid.ma/IMG/pdf_PNUD-GOLD_Maghreb.pdf
I agreed with this change but only with a little changes:
Admin_level=5 is for prefectures and provinces (collectively, wilaya) [THIS IS A CHANGE]
Admin_level=6 is for cercles [THIS IS NEW]
Admin_level=7 is for caidat, districts and pashalik(arrondissements) [THIS IS THE SAME]
Admin_level=8 is for municipalities and rural communes [THIS IS THE SAME]
best regards
From: John Freed
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:21 PM
To: Frédéric Rodrigo ; ali zaroili
Cc: talk-ma at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OKFILTER] Re: [Talk-ma] mapping caïdats and cercles
I agree with Frederic that local_authority is probably not the best solution because the caidats really are (always) part of the cercles. I also note that Mali has cercles as Admin_level=6
So I would propose:
Admin_level=5 is for prefectures and provinces (collectively, wilaya) [THIS IS A CHANGE]
Admin_level=6 is for cercles and pashalik [THIS IS NEW]
Admin_level=7 is for caidat, districts and arrondissements [THIS IS THE SAME]
Admin_level=8 is for municipalities and rural communes [THIS IS THE SAME]
As I said, there are only 75 wilayat, so this is not too hard a change. I would be willing to do it if everyone agrees.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Frédéric Rodrigo <fred.rodrigo at gmail.com> wrote:
Le 28/03/2015 17:23, Ali a écrit :
hi,
I inserted a time ago Morocco on that page
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Admin_level
I forgot that page.
Maybe i change the Admin_level=7 from "caidats" to "cercles" and assing
the "caidats" to boundary_local_authority would be a good sullution,
because the "caidats" are under lower level then "cercles".
boundary_local_authority are mentioned here in the overlay:
http://layers.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=11&lat=34.57298&lon=-2.51861&layers=B0000FFFFFFFFFFFFTFFFFFFFFF
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dlocal_authority
local_authority was introduced in France because admin_level not match the definition. French local_authorities are groups of admin_level=8, but can be cross any other admin_level. It's not part of the country admin_level scheme.
administrative layer of Morocco:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ca%C3%AFdat#/media/File:Moroccan_administrative_division.png
Moving existing admin_level may have sense.
best regards
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Frédéric Rodrigo
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 2:44 PM
To: Ali ; talk-ma at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ma] mapping caïdats and cercles
Hi,
Admin_level=7 is already documented as districts/caïdats on the wiki :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Admin_level
But not used in data :
http://layers.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=11&lat=34.57298&lon=-2.51861&layers=B0000FFFFFFFFFFFFTFFFFFFFFF
admin_level must be used for... admin limit and must be consistent,
lower levels must be included in upper level. Note, boundaries can be
other type than adminstrative. I don't know enough the Morocan
admistrative layers to provide an answer, but only point you ressources.
Frédéric.
Le 28/03/2015 14:23, Ali a écrit :
hi,
I want to start mapping the caïdats and cercles as seen in
example:http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_de_Taourirt under
Découpage territorial.
any idee how to assing the amin levels for these cercles and caidats?
explain of caidats is in wikipedia:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ca%C3%AFdat#Le_ca.C3.AFdat_dans_le_d.C3.A9coupage_administratif
i know the “cercles” are “children” of a province (parent) and
“caidats” are “children of “cercles”.
knowing the province has admin_level=6 and municipalities has
admin-level=8.
if i use admin level=7 for “cercles” is it possible to use admin level=9
for “caidats” or not?
best regards
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