[talk-ph] Tagging bridges and tunnels

Ronny Ager-Wick ronny at ager-wick.com
Thu Feb 19 01:18:10 UTC 2015


This is a good point Eugene, and in fact the bridge names are very good
landmarks, given that there are not many other signs on the roads in the
Philippines, especially in rural areas. Another thing to take into
consideration is that many bridges gain their name from the river they cross
over, so there may be many bridges with the same name. They are definitely not
tagged consistently at the moment, for example:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/15.15516/120.59219
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/15.15840/120.60712
If I remember correctly, they are both named Abacan Bridge, but only one of
them has that name on the map, and incidentally the one with a different road
name on each side does not.

Do you know if common routing software will pick up the bridge:name=* tag?
Yes, I know we're not supposed to tag based on what current software will pick
up, but it is interesting to know, given that bridges are such great landmarks.

It would be great with a published suggested standard that fits the Philippine
conditions.
Ronny.


On 2015-02-19 08:08, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
> Hi Pierre,
>
> Most bridges here in the Philippines have names no matter how small. You can
> usually spot their name on the guard rail or on a small sign just before the
> bridge. These names are almost always accompanied by the maximum load the
> bridge can handle (which is tagged using maxweight=*) and sometimes with the
> distance from the island's zero-kilometer marker (I have no idea how to tag
> these. Maybe distance=*?).
>
> Some examples:
>
> http://www.philippinesdailyphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/bukidnon-atugan-bridge.jpg
> http://www.zamboanga.com/z/images/0/09/Calapan_Bridge,_Calapan,_Kabasalan,_Zamboanga_Sibugay,_Philippines.JPG
> http://static.rappler.com/images/tullahan-bridge-screengrab-20130708.jpg
>
> Regards,
> Eugene
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr
> <mailto:pierzenh at yahoo.fr>> wrote:
>
>     Eugene,
>
>     I expect that only the major bridges have name. And we generally refer
>     to these by their name and not the road reference. Unless you have
>     particularities in Philippines.
>     Example Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco bay.
>     OpenStreetMap | ‪Golden Gate Bridge‬ (‪52477381‬)
>     <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/52477381>
>      
>     Pierre
>
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>     *À :* Ervin Malicdem <schadow1 at gmail.com <mailto:schadow1 at gmail.com>>
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>
>     Hi Ervin,
>
>     Option 1 is what I do.
>
>     Take note that if we have a way with highway=something and bridge=yes,
>     then the object is primarily a highway/road and the bridge is only an
>     aspect or property of the highway/road segment. Therefore, the name=*
>     tag should be the name of the highway/road. And then put the name of the
>     bridge on the bridge:name=* tag.
>
>     Besides, it will be very weird to have a long highway with unconnected
>     names just because there are bridges along the highway.
>
>     The only time I would put the name of the bridge on the name=* tag is if
>     the roads from both ends of the bridge have different names. For
>     example, the bridge formerly called Del Pan in Manila:
>     www.openstreetmap.org/way/4304674 <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4304674>
>
>     ~Eugene
>
>
>     On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Ervin Malicdem <schadow1 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:schadow1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
>         Query regarding tagging bridges.
>         What is the appropriate way of tagging bridges?
>
>         Option1: Use the name of the road, and place the name of the bridge
>         under bridge:name or the name of the tunnel under tunnel:name
>
>         Option2: Use the name of the bridge/tunnel, omit the road name
>
>         Thanks
>
>         Ervin M.
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