[Talk-TW] Talk-TW Digest, Vol 33, Issue 24
Dennis Raylin Chen
b92612009 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 2 03:48:27 UTC 2013
先別管政府的廣宣口號「開放資料」
可以比較一下台北市採用的license,與OpenStreetMap採用的license
你就明白為何現在不是用匯入的方式處理
而是用local knowledge建資料
2013/3/2 pluto <pluto.tw���xuite.net>
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> 台北市,明明有開放平台, 下載的 台北市-地標分類資料(201012).mdb 內就有各種商店 , 中山區有 12546 筆資料
> 包含此 po 的藥行
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> 不明瞭的是, 要政府 open data , 而 明明有 open data 了,卻還要浪費人加去建資料 ,不能用匯入的嗎 ?
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> *From:* Liang-chih Shang Kuan <shangkuanlc���gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 02, 2013 8:47 AM
> *To:* OSM Taiwan <talk-tw���openstreetmap.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-TW] Talk-TW Digest, Vol 33, Issue 24
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> 好詳盡啊,又學到了不少
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> 已經到etherpad裡新增了幾個點,像是中藥行、禮儀公司等(我家旁邊是第一殯儀館,一堆這種店哈哈哈),詳情可見這篇日記
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Shangkuanlc/diary/18743
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> 上官
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>> 1. Fwd: Talk-TW Digest, Vol 33, Issue 23 (???)
>> 2. Re: OSM Taiwan ???? (Rex Tsai)
>> 3. Re: ???????????tag (Dennis Raylin Chen)
>> 4. [Proposal] Taiwan local tags (???)
>> 5. Re: [Proposal] Taiwan local tags (Arne Goetje)
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>> ---------- 轉寄訊息 ----------
>> From: 陳文振 <openegret���gmail.com>
>> To: talk-tw���openstreetmap.org
>> Cc:
>> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:07:55 +0800
>> Subject: [Talk-TW] Fwd: Talk-TW Digest, Vol 33, Issue 23
>> > 登山社群與山難救助協會。
>> > 他們需要即時更新的圖資,而且人人有 GPS device.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > -Rex
>> > _______________________________________________
>> 台北中山北路有個登山社團,我可能可以安排,可以請誰去推廣演講?最好是會台語的人.要平常日迥三四的晚上
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>> ---------- 轉寄訊息 ----------
>> From: Rex Tsai <chihchun���kalug.linux.org.tw>
>> To: Louis Liu <pttdog���gmail.com>
>> Cc: OSM Taiwan <talk-tw���openstreetmap.org>
>> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:39:08 +0800
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-TW] OSM Taiwan 的下一步
>> 在 2013年2月26日下午1:52,Louis Liu <pttdog���gmail.com> 寫道:
>> >
>> > 目前的 renderer 其實都有點複雜,或許支援 NGO 和其他終端使用者產生圖?
>> > 當然最後還是要交他們自己釣魚,但是初期還在克服技術難題的時候可以幫忙
>> >
>> > 同時想到先前提到幹部的問題,可以先成立一個 "技術研究小組" 來搞定這些東西
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>> 附議成立技術小組。(Rex 是最需要被幫忙的人 :p)
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>> Regards
>> -Rex
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>>
>> ---------- 轉寄訊息 ----------
>> From: Dennis Raylin Chen <b92612009���gmail.com>
>> To: deng dongpo <dongpo.deng���gmail.com>
>> Cc: "OSM.TW" <talk-tw���openstreetmap.org>
>> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 23:23:02 +0800
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-TW] 跟人生最後一里路有關的tag
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>> 2013/2/26 deng dongpo <dongpo.deng���gmail.com>
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>>> >> 先前也與上官討論到靈骨塔的tag
>>> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcrematorium
>>>
>>> crematorium 是指火葬場,和靈骨塔完全不一樣。而靈骨塔就是墓園,只是building 型態。
>>>
>>> 原來我搞錯了
>>
>>
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>>> >> 不過我有個疑問:做墓地工程的可不可以用這個tag?
>>> 不懂這是什麼?做墓地工程的“什麼”,人嗎? 土公仔?
>>>
>>>
>> 我指的是墓園旁常見的包工程行
>>
>> 起造墓塚、撿骨,遷葬的工程
>>
>>>
>>> local tag 一直是討論的重點
>>> 日本也有這樣的問題
>>>
>>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-February/005995.html
>>>
>>> 許多tag 和台灣有關,可以直接用。
>>>
>>> 提個建議,大家是否把資料集合到pad上
>>> http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags
>>>
>>> 待完整了,再放上OSM wiki,還是讓wiki連這個頁面。
>>>
>>> <温泉>
>>>
>>> 温泉、源泉(提案中)
>>> leisure=hot_spring
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring
>>>
>>> 温泉旅館
>>> amenity=guest_house
>>> hot_spring=yes
>>>
>>> 温泉區、温泉街
>>> place=suburb
>>> hot_spring=yes
>>> name=北投温泉
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 彩券店
>>> amenity=gambling (提案中)
>>> gambling=lottery (提案中)
>>>
>>> 柏青哥店
>>> amenity=gambling (提案中)
>>> gambling=pachinko (提案中)
>>>
>>> 檳榔店 (建議用法,需再確認)
>>> shop=deli
>>> production=betel nuts
>>>
>>> 泡沬紅茶 (建議用法,需再確認)
>>> shop=beverages
>>> name=***
>>>
>>> 卡啦OK店(提案中)
>>> amenity=karaoke_box
>>>
>>> 電子遊樂場
>>> amenity=video_arcade
>>>
>>> 米店(提案檢討中)
>>> shop=rice
>>>
>>> 自動碾米場
>>> amenity=vending_machine
>>> vending=rice_polishing
>>>
>>> 戶外吸煙區
>>> smoking:outside=yes
>>>
>>> 路邊停車
>>> parking:lane:both=left/right/both
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> dongpo
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:24 PM, 李昕迪 Lee, Sin-di <mcdlee���gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > 借一下標題,菲律賓的朋友有整理一個頁面分門別類整理常見的 POIs
>>> >
>>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Mapping_conventions
>>> >
>>> > 在 2013年2月26日上午9:21,Dennis Raylin Chen <b92612009���gmail.com> 寫道:
>>> >> Hi Mappers
>>> >>
>>> >> 可能大家都很熟悉圈墓園、墓地相關的tag
>>> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dcemetery
>>> >>
>>> >> 先前也與上官討論到靈骨塔的tag
>>> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcrematorium
>>> >>
>>> >> 不過可能不知道「禮儀公司」的tag
>>> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dfuneral_directors
>>> >>
>>> >> 不過我有個疑問:做墓地工程的可不可以用這個tag?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Supaplex/Dennis
>>> >>
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>> ---------- 轉寄訊息 ----------
>> From: "李昕迪 Lee, Sin-di" <mcdlee���gmail.com>
>> To: deng dongpo <dongpo.deng���gmail.com>
>> Cc: "OSM.TW" <talk-tw���openstreetmap.org>
>> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:38:28 +0800
>> Subject: [Talk-TW] [Proposal] Taiwan local tags
>> 重開一個標題
>>
>> http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags
>>
>> 在 2013年2月26日下午5:09,deng dongpo <dongpo.deng���gmail.com> 寫道:
>> > local tag 一直是討論的重點
>> > 日本也有這樣的問題
>> >
>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-February/005995.html
>> > 許多tag 和台灣有關,可以直接用。
>> >
>> > 提個建議,大家是否把資料集合到pad上
>> > http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags
>> >
>> > 待完整了,再放上OSM wiki,還是讓wiki連這個頁面。
>> >
>> > <温泉>
>> >
>> > 温泉、源泉(提案中)
>> > leisure=hot_spring
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring
>> >
>> > 温泉旅館
>> > amenity=guest_house
>> > hot_spring=yes
>> >
>> > 温泉區、温泉街
>> > place=suburb
>> > hot_spring=yes
>> > name=北投温泉
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 彩券店
>> > amenity=gambling (提案中)
>> > gambling=lottery (提案中)
>> >
>> > 柏青哥店
>> > amenity=gambling (提案中)
>> > gambling=pachinko (提案中)
>> >
>> > 檳榔店 (建議用法,需再確認)
>> > shop=deli
>> > production=betel nuts
>> >
>> > 泡沬紅茶 (建議用法,需再確認)
>> > shop=beverages
>> > name=***
>> >
>> > 卡啦OK店(提案中)
>> > amenity=karaoke_box
>> >
>> > 電子遊樂場
>> > amenity=video_arcade
>> >
>> > 米店(提案檢討中)
>> > shop=rice
>> >
>> > 自動碾米場
>> > amenity=vending_machine
>> > vending=rice_polishing
>> >
>> > 戶外吸煙區
>> > smoking:outside=yes
>> >
>> > 路邊停車
>> > parking:lane:both=left/right/both
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > dongpo
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:24 PM, 李昕迪 Lee, Sin-di <mcdlee���gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> 借一下標題,菲律賓的朋友有整理一個頁面分門別類整理常見的 POIs
>> >>
>> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Mapping_conventions
>>
>> --
>> 李昕迪 Lee, Sin-di | http://www.mcdlee.tw
>>
>>
>> ---------- 轉寄訊息 ----------
>> From: Arne Goetje <arne.goetje���gmail.com>
>> To: talk-tw���openstreetmap.org
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:19:12 +0800
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-TW] [Proposal] Taiwan local tags
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>> On 02/27/2013 01:38 PM, 李昕迪 Lee, Sin-di wrote:
>> > 重開一個標題
>> >
>> > http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags
>> >
>> > 在 2013年2月26日下午5:09,deng dongpo <dongpo.deng���gmail.com> 寫道:
>> >> local tag 一直是討論的重點 日本也有這樣的問題
>> >>
>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-February/005995.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> 許多tag 和台灣有關,可以直接用。
>> >>
>> >> 提個建議,大家是否把資料集合到pad上
>> >> http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags
>> >>
>> >> 待完整了,再放上OSM wiki,還是讓wiki連這個頁面。
>> >>
>> >> <温泉>
>> >>
>> >> 温泉、源泉(提案中) leisure=hot_spring
>> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring
>>
>> I added this long time ago, but didn't follow up. Sorry.
>> Question would be: how to tag commercial hot springs and wild hot
>> springs respectively? Commercial hot springs are generally like
>> swimming pools with private tubs, while wild hot springs are not.
>>
>> So maybe use natural=hot_spring for wild ones and
>> amenity=guest_house, hot_spring=yes for commercial ones.
>> leisure=hot_spring can maybe refer to public hot springs, which are
>> like pools, but free of charge and without guest houses. (Those are
>> rare nowadays).
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> >>
>> >> 温泉旅館 amenity=guest_house hot_spring=yes
>> >>
>> >> 温泉區、温泉街 place=suburb hot_spring=yes name=北投温泉
>>
>> Why do we need this? Rather tag the hot spring locations individually,
>> not in the area.
>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 彩券店 amenity=gambling (提案中) gambling=lottery (提案中)
>> >>
>> >> 柏青哥店 amenity=gambling (提案中) gambling=pachinko (提案中)
>> >>
>> >> 檳榔店 (建議用法,需再確認) shop=deli production=betel nuts
>>
>> Are betel nuts a delicacy nowadays? ;)
>> I would rather classify them as road stands, since you can also buy
>> drinks and cigarettes there, not only betel nuts.
>>
>> >>
>> >> 泡沬紅茶 (建議用法,需再確認) shop=beverages name=***
>>
>> add beverages={tea, coffee, soft_drinks, juice, mixed,
>> {tea|coffee|juice}_blends, ...}
>> separate multiple values by semicolon.
>>
>> Example:
>> shop=beverages
>> name=Coco 大興店
>> operator=Coco (or whatever the official name of that company is)
>> beverages=tea_blends;coffee_blends;juice;mixed
>>
>> >>
>> >> 卡啦OK店(提案中) amenity=karaoke_box
>> >>
>> >> 電子遊樂場 amenity=video_arcade
>> >>
>> >> 米店(提案檢討中) shop=rice
>> >>
>> >> 自動碾米場 amenity=vending_machine vending=rice_polishing
>> >>
>> >> 戶外吸煙區 smoking:outside=yes
>>
>> Isn't smoking only banned inside buildings? That would make the tag
>> obsolete, no? Smoking is still allowed outside anywhere, isn't it?
>>
>> >>
>> >> 路邊停車 parking:lane:both=left/right/both
>>
>> Aren't there tags available for parking lanes already? Mark them
>> individually alongside the road.
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