[Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

[Paul Johnson]

The same one.  It also says to look at the diagram for examples, and shows
turns into the nearest available lane.


On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Anthony <osm at inbox.org> wrote:

> Heh, by the way, I just looked at the 2012 Florida Driver's Handbook
> (page 32).  It explicitly says "A left turn may be completed in any
> lane lawfully available, or safe, for the desired direction of
> travel."
>
> I'm not sure which driver's manual you were looking at.
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Anthony <osm at inbox.org> wrote:
> > "You turn into the corresponding lane after a turn in Florida,"  No.
> > While the broader point is arguable, what you said there is absolutely
> > wrong.
> >
> > "The driver of a vehicle intending to turn left at any intersection
> > shall approach the intersection in the extreme left-hand lane lawfully
> > available to traffic moving in the direction of travel of such
> > vehicle, and, after entering the intersection, the left turn shall be
> > made so as to leave the intersection in a lane lawfully available to
> > traffic moving in such direction upon the roadway being entered."
> > (
> http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0300-0399/0316/Sections/0316.151.html
> )
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org>
> wrote:
> >> Looking through the "making turns" section of the Florida driver's
> manual,
> >> the maneuver NE2 proposes and the argument you're giving to explain it
> still
> >> doesn't work.  You turn into the corresponding lane after a turn in
> Florida,
> >> no lane changes permitted in the intersection.  You can only turn left
> into
> >> the farthest left lane without changing lanes in the intersection.
>  It's on
> >> page 30 of the Florida driver's manual.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Russ Nelson <nelson at crynwr.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think that what he would say to the judge, when defending his
> >>> traffic ticket in court, was that he *did* make a left ... and then a
> >>> quick right. Since at no time did he move against the flow of traffic,
> >>> he might prevail. There's a traffic light at that intersection, so it
> >>> seems safe enough, if a bit unconventional.
> >>>
> >>> But isn't that our beef with NE2? That he makes edits which he thinks
> >>> are obvious, but which we think are unconventional?
> >>>
> >>> Paul Johnson writes:
> >>>  > So he's conveniently ignoring the left turn only arrow there
> preventing
> >>> a
> >>>  > straight-on movement?
> >>>  >
> >>>  >
> >>>  > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Richard Welty
> >>> <rwelty at averillpark.net>wrote:
> >>>  >
> >>>  > > NE2 asked me to share this diary entry with the list:
> >>>  > >
> >>>  > >
> >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/**user/NE2/diary/18600<
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/NE2/diary/18600>
> >>>  > >
> >>>  > > richard
> >>>  > >
> >>>  > >
> >>>  > >
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> >>>  > <div dir="ltr">So he's conveniently ignoring the left turn only
> >>> arrow there preventing a straight-on movement?</div><div
> >>> class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 10,
> 2013 at
> >>> 5:09 PM, Richard Welty <span dir="ltr"><<a
> >>> href="mailto:rwelty at averillpark.net"
> >>> target="_blank">rwelty at averillpark.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
> >>>  > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
> >>> .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">NE2 asked me to
> share this
> >>> diary entry with the list:<br>
> >>>  > <br>
> >>>  >             <a href="
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/NE2/diary/18600"
> >>> target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/
> <u></u>user/NE2/diary/18600</a><span
> >>> class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
> >>>  > <br>
> >>>  > richard</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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