[OSM-talk] Review of name and boundary tagging - revised and amended guidelines to address and resolve disputes

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Thu Jul 15 07:32:08 UTC 2021

Hi Daniel, 

full agreement. 


Am 14.07.2021 22:59, schrieb Daniel Koć:

> W dniu 14.07.2021 o 16:47, Christoph Hormann pisze:
>> On the contrary - the irony is that 
>> practically all of the attacks against this principle come from wealthy 
>> hedonist Europeans and North Americans (or people from elsewhere 
>> assimilated into European and North American cultures) who feel 
>> inconvenienced by the verifiability principle in pursuit of their 
>> subjective goals in the project.
> I don't see the attack on any principles, we still agree on general
> things. It's just a clear criticism of guidelines which are incomplete
> and are hardly applicable for big objects. They should be extended for
> such a broad class or simply ignored outside their scope - just as it is
> written.
>> In my experience local mappers from other regions and cultural 
>> backgrounds typically embrace the principle of verifiability very 
>> naturally and intuitively and often without any guidance from a 
>> document in their language imposing it as a normative principle.
> Exactly my point - the key is a word "local". Try to say "I'm local to
> the ocean/planet" and it's clear how limited it really is and why it
> doesn't work for all the cases.
>> In other words:  It did not only come to be the main guiding principle 
>> in mapping in OSM by virtue of common sense, it also continues to be 
>> renewed and re-confirmed every day by mappers as such through the 
>> collective cross-cultural common sense of the global mapping 
>> community - expressed not primarily in words but in their actions as 
>> mappers.
> The more vague principles and bigger words, the less usable it is for
> the real mapping. "Let's have a great map" sounds very nice and proper,
> but it tells nothing about how to do it, so it is not really applicable.
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