[talk-ph] landuse = farm

David Groom reviews at pacific-rim.net
Tue May 2 11:43:40 UTC 2017


Thanks for showing me those previous discussions

------ Original Message ------
From: "Eugene Alvin Villar" <seav80 at gmail.com>
To: "David Groom" <reviews at pacific-rim.net>
Cc: "OpenStreetMap Philippines" <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
Sent: 02/05/2017 04:31:46
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] landuse = farm

>Of the 3 options, I also favor option 3. For the record, I've been 
>saying that landuse=farmland (or landuse=farm before) should be tagged 
>on the entire farm area and not on individual fields (or rice paddies 
>if crop=rice). See this post of mine from 2009:
>
>https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-November/001545.html
>
>There's also a relevant discussion in 2014 regarding the mapping of 
>individual farm fields/paddies (thread archive is split into two 
>months):
>
>https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2014-August/005229.html
>https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2014-October/005318.html
>
>For the specific case of rice paddies, there are actually two ways you 
>can go about mapping things (once you've marked up the whole area as a 
>single landuse=farmland):
>
>1. Mark the borders between paddies as ways as these are raised lines 
>of land that serve as walls to hold the water and secondarily serve as 
>footpaths (but shouldn't be tagged as highway=*) to access individual 
>paddies. There was the suggestion to use man_made=bund or 
>man_made=embankment or something similar but no decision was made.
>
>2. Mark the paddies as individual polygons.
>
>~Eugene
>
>On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 3:28 AM, David Groom <reviews at pacific-rim.net> 
>wrote:
>>
>>During early April I looked at  nodes/ways/relations tagged as 
>>landuse=farm as reclassified many of them as appropriate.
>>
>>Howver , in some places I noted that individual fields had been tagged 
>>using landuse = farm, for example:
>>
>>https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/11.225924767247454/124.54216374231005 
>><https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/11.225924767247454/124.54216374231005>
>>https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/16.933969/121.13637 
>><https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/16.933969/121.13637>
>>https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/14.883274660783613/120.25851326487962 
>><https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/14.883274660783613/120.25851326487962>
>>
>>
>>At present I have done nothing with these ways
>>
>>The standard use in OSM for landuse=farmland is for it to be used on 
>>larger areas, rather than individual fields
>>
>>There appears to be no approved tag in OSM for fields, (though taginfo 
>><https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/field#values> shows field=yes 
>>used on 388 occasions worldwide)
>>
>>There seem to be a number of possibilities regarding these ways:
>>
>>1) retag them as landuse=farmland
>>2) delete them and draw a single way round the larger outline of all 
>>the adjacent fields and tag this as landuse=farmland
>>3) retag  them as field=yes, and also draw a single way round the 
>>larger outline of all the adjacent fields and tag this as 
>>landuse=farmland.
>>
>>Of these I think I favour approach 3 as it keeps the field data in OSM 
>>(someone might have a use for this)
>>
>>What are your thoughts?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>------ Original Message ------
>>From: "David Groom" <reviews at pacific-rim.net>
>>To: "OpenStreetMap Philippines" <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
>>Sent: 31/03/2017 12:23:53
>>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] landuse = farm
>>
>>>I don't think it will take too long for one person to do this, but I 
>>>may be mistaken.
>>>
>>>It will also be an opportunity to look at some of the areas tagged as 
>>>"landuse = farm", and merge them into adjacent areas where 
>>>appropriate.
>>>
>>>David
>>>
>>>
>>>------ Original Message ------
>>>From: "Eugene Alvin Villar" <seav80 at gmail.com>
>>>To: "David Groom" <reviews at pacific-rim.net>
>>>Cc: "OpenStreetMap Philippines" <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
>>>Sent: 30/03/2017 00:56:18
>>>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] landuse = farm
>>>
>>>>On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:06 PM, David Groom 
>>>><reviews at pacific-rim.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Shall I start looking at the  relations and ways and change where 
>>>>>appropriate from "landuse = farm" to "landuse = farmland"?
>>>>>
>>>>>What do you think?
>>>>
>>>>Go for it! Would it also make sense to turn this into a Maproulette 
>>>>task?
>>>>
>>>>~Eugene
>>
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